i speak to my plants...and they listen and respond..merle Merle www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
________________________________ From: Glenn Rogers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 3:50 AM Subject: [Zen] Re: bone broth I saw a National Geographic program in which scientists hooked up ECG monitors to plant flowers. They submitted the plants to a series of tests, including stroking its leaves, talking to it, shouting at it, etc. Their machines detected no change in electrical impulses--until one of the scientists tried to cut the plant. As soon as his scissors touched the plant, there was an intense spike in electrical activity. The program was explicitly non-outcome oriented, i.e., not forming any conclusions, but it certainly begged some questions about plant consciousness that piqued my curiosity. Glenn --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > On 8/26/2012 8:20 PM, Joe wrote: > > > > > > One of the Four Noble Truths taught by the Buddha was the reality of > > ...Suffering. > > > > Of course there are other translations of 'dukkha' - such as > 'dissatisfaction' - that aren't so easily confused with physical > pain/body information (which of course can also be seen as a source of > dissatisfaction when resisted). > > > > > Animals suffer: Plants do not (seem to suffer). > > > > So it appears through human eyes. We cannot know. > > > > > Maybe, some day, plants will be shown to be equally -- however > > differently -- as sentient as animals. Then, all vegetarians and > > vegans will be in some trouble. > > > > Does the obvious need to be shown to us? Do the stars cry out as they > are pulled into the singularity at the galactic core? Could we not > interpret their increased emissions as such, just as we with an animals > cries? > > > > > > I too am a strict omnivore, Glenn. But I have been in/gone through 10 > > or 12 year periods of being solely vegetarian, from time to time. > > > > Things keep changing. ;-) > > > > Yep, I have gone vegan for a spell now and then myself. Not for any > religious or moral reasons, it just seemed right/felt right at the time. > Have had to eliminate wheat last year or so. Body speaks clearly enough, > as its needs change. I don't always listen, or have resources to eat > optimally. > > KG >
