well there is a 4 acre garden to prove it...come and visit..merle Prove it Merle. I'm not convinced...
Today is freeing Merle from illusion day! :-) Edgar On Aug 27, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > >i speak to my plants...and they listen and respond..merle > >Merle >www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1 > > > >________________________________ > From: Glenn Rogers <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 3:50 AM >Subject: [Zen] Re: bone broth > > > >I saw a National Geographic program in which scientists hooked up ECG monitors >to plant flowers. They submitted the plants to a series of tests, including >stroking its leaves, talking to it, shouting at it, etc. Their machines >detected no change in electrical impulses--until one of the scientists tried >to cut the plant. As soon as his scissors touched the plant, there was an >intense spike in electrical activity. The program was explicitly non-outcome >oriented, i.e., not forming any conclusions, but it certainly begged some >questions about plant consciousness that piqued my curiosity. > >Glenn > >--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: >> >> On 8/26/2012 8:20 PM, Joe wrote: >> > >> > >> > One of the Four Noble Truths taught by the Buddha was the reality of >> > ...Suffering. >> > >> >> Of course there are other translations of 'dukkha' - such as >> 'dissatisfaction' - that aren't so easily confused with physical >> pain/body information (which of course can also be seen as a source of >> dissatisfaction when resisted). >> >> > >> > Animals suffer: Plants do not (seem to suffer). >> > >> >> So it appears through human eyes. We cannot know. >> >> > >> > Maybe, some day, plants will be shown to be equally -- however >> > differently -- as sentient as animals. Then, all vegetarians and >> > vegans will be in some trouble. >> > >> >> Does the obvious need to be shown to us? Do the stars cry out as they >> are pulled into the singularity at the galactic core? Could we not >> interpret their increased emissions as such, just as we with an animals >> cries? >> >> >> > >> > I too am a strict omnivore, Glenn. But I have been in/gone through 10 >> > or 12 year periods of being solely vegetarian, from time to time. >> > >> > Things keep changing. ;-) >> > >> >> Yep, I have gone vegan for a spell now and then myself. Not for any >> religious or moral reasons, it just seemed right/felt right at the time. >> Have had to eliminate wheat last year or so. Body speaks clearly enough, >> as its needs change. I don't always listen, or have resources to eat >> optimally. >> >> KG >> > > > > > >
