ED,

Rational thought is most certainly NOT futile in solving actual problems in the 
world of forms....

EDgar



On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:29 AM, ED wrote:

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> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
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> > Bill! claims logic is NOT Zen...
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> > Edgar
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> Maybe Bill means:  "Zen stresses the importance of the enlightenment 
> experience and the futility of rational thought, ...    (See last definition 
> below.)
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> --ED
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> What is Zen?
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> Zen
> noun /zen/ 
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> A Japanese school of Mahayana Buddhism emphasizing the value of meditation 
> and intuition
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> Web definitions
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> school of Mahayana Buddhism asserting that enlightenment can come through 
> meditation and intuition rather than faith; China and Japan
> 
> a Buddhist doctrine that enlightenment can be attained through direct 
> intuitive insight
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> wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
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> Zen is a school of Mah¨¡y¨¡na Buddhism. The Japanese word Zen is derived from 
> the Chinese word Ch¨¢n, which in turn is derived from the Sanskrit word 
> dhy¨¡na, which means "meditation" or "meditative state."
> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen
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> A denomination of Buddhism; Pertaining to this denomination of Buddhism; 
> extremely relaxed and collected
> en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zen
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> Japanese teaching with origins in ancient China whose belief is that the only 
> path to enlightenment is through direct, intuitive insight-by focusing solely 
> on your essential nature.
> www.hotelthailand.com/thailand-activities/spa/spa-glossary.html
> 
> A Buddhist tradition founded in China as a result of the teaching of 
> Bodhidharma, circa 475 C.E. Found today mostly in Vietnam, Japan and Korea 
> (and of course various centers in the West).
> dharma.ncf.ca/faqs/glossary.html
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> Buddhist form of meditation perpetuated by Tamo (Daruma).
> bakerfamily4.net/kenpo/terms.htm
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> A school or division of Buddhism characterized by techniques designed to 
> produce enlightenment. In particular, Zen emphasizes various sorts of 
> meditative practices, which are supposed to lead the practitioner to a direct 
> insight into the fundamental character of reality (see KU and MOKUSO).
> cardiffaikikai.co.uk/aikido_dictionary.htm
> 
> The discipline of enlightenment related to the Buddhist doctrine that 
> emphasizes meditation, discipline, and the direct transmission of teachings 
> from master to student. ...
> www.steveconway.net/humour/dictionary.htm
> 
> the Japanese word for a school of Mahayana Buddhism originating in China 
> around the 7th century CE and now found throughout East Asia. Zen emphasizes 
> meditation practice and is often characterized by simplicity and rigor.
> www.pbs.org/thebuddha/glossary/
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> (Japanese) Buddhist school or sect favouring meditation and intuition rather 
> than scripture as a means to enlightenment, which passed from China to Japan 
> in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries.
> www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/history/glossary_tz.htm
> 
> Meditative absorption in which all dualistic distinctions are eliminated.
> www.zentexts.org/zen-term.html
> 
> A meditative form of Buddhist practice that developed in China in the 5-7th 
> Century and then spread to Japan and Korea. WIkipedia article.
> www.gaiahouse.co.uk/page.php
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> The Japanese word for a branch of Mahayana Buddhism based on highly 
> disciplined meditation. It is known in Sanskrit as dhyana, in Chinese as 
> chan, and in Korean as son. (p. 289)
> college.cengage.com/history/world/bulliet/earth_peoples/2e/stud¡­
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> A school of Mahayana Buddhism, found mainly in China, Japan, Korea and 
> Vietnam, which emphasises the path of meditation and self-realization.
> www.transpersonalscience.org/tranglos.aspx
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> 
> (Japanese; Korean: Son; Chinese: Ch¡¯an; Sanskrit: Dhyana): meditation 
> practice.
> www.kwanumzen.org/teachers-and-teaching/glossary-of-terms/
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> An abbreviation of the Japanese word zenna,which is a transliteration of the 
> Sanskrit dhyana (ch¡¯an or ch¡¯anna in Chinese), that is, the process of 
> concentration and absorption by which the mind is first stabilized and 
> brought to a penetrating one-pointedness, and then awakened. ...
> www.windhorsezen.org/blog/
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> Japanese; Ch'an (Chinese); a branch of Mahayana Buddhism which developed in 
> China during the sixth and seventh centuries after Bodhidharma arrived; it 
> later divided into the Soto and Rinzai schools; Zen stresses the importance 
> of the enlightenment experience and the futility of rational thought, ...
> mokurai.destinyslobster.com/buddhist_glossary.html
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