ED, That's EXACTLY what I mean...Bill!
--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > Bill! claims logic is NOT Zen... > > > Edgar > > ==================== > > Maybe Bill means: "Zen stresses the importance of the enlightenment > experience and the futility of rational thought, ... (See last > definition below.) > > --ED > > ======================= > > What is Zen? > > > Search Results > Zen > nounâ/zen/â > > > 1. A Japanese school of Mahayana Buddhism emphasizing the value of > meditation and intuition > > > > Web definitions > * school of Mahayana Buddhism asserting that enlightenment can come > through meditation and intuition rather than faith; China and Japan > > * a Buddhist doctrine that enlightenment can be attained through > direct intuitive insight > > * wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webw\ > n%3Fs%3Dzen&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CDQQngkwAQ&q=Zen&u\ > sg=AFQjCNGns9WmNv1JBccDgJrCpgEcHfcWrg> > > > > * Zen is a school of Mah¨¡y¨¡na Buddhism. The Japanese word Zen > is derived from the Chinese word Ch¨¢n, which in turn is derived from > the Sanskrit word dhy¨¡na, which means "meditation" or "meditative > state." > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen&rct=j&sa\ > =X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CDgQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNE2RpzqieRxR\ > a7ESL8woYjuWRSZ1A> > > * > * A denomination of Buddhism; Pertaining to this denomination of > Buddhism; extremely relaxed and collected > en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zen > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zen&rct=j&s\ > a=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CEIQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNGMoksZDbG4\ > -0ESjSA71BA9sT-0CQ> > > * Japanese teaching with origins in ancient China whose belief is > that the only path to enlightenment is through direct, intuitive > insight-by focusing solely on your essential nature. > www.hotelthailand.com/thailand-activities/spa/spa-glossary.html > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.hotelthailand.com/thailand-act\ > ivities/spa/spa-glossary.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0\ > CEQQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNGPGc_qht-DIHapjpVwLSFbpVUgyw> > > * A Buddhist tradition founded in China as a result of the teaching > of Bodhidharma, circa 475 C.E. Found today mostly in Vietnam, Japan and > Korea (and of course various centers in the West). > dharma.ncf.ca/faqs/glossary.html > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://dharma.ncf.ca/faqs/glossary.html&r\ > ct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CEYQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNHG_v\ > yfS5Kuu7F_3CQcIY6L4YVt_Q> > > * Buddhist form of meditation perpetuated by Tamo (Daruma). > bakerfamily4.net/kenpo/terms.htm > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://bakerfamily4.net/kenpo/terms.htm&r\ > ct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CEgQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNGCJL\ > X0AwR-lYq1ibOpugPtr23-5Q> > > * A school or division of Buddhism characterized by techniques > designed to produce enlightenment. In particular, Zen emphasizes various > sorts of meditative practices, which are supposed to lead the > practitioner to a direct insight into the fundamental character of > reality (see KU and MOKUSO). > cardiffaikikai.co.uk/aikido_dictionary.htm > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://cardiffaikikai.co.uk/aikido_dictio\ > nary.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CEoQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=\ > AFQjCNFhHkgY7mTZfuu1gaQ_nfaP4KFSTQ> > > * The discipline of enlightenment related to the Buddhist doctrine > that emphasizes meditation, discipline, and the direct transmission of > teachings from master to student. ... > www.steveconway.net/humour/dictionary.htm > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.steveconway.net/humour/diction\ > ary.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CEwQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=A\ > FQjCNFm_IByvawm0IzWXa2Et3RrSGmzDQ> > > * the Japanese word for a school of Mahayana Buddhism originating in > China around the 7th century CE and now found throughout East Asia. Zen > emphasizes meditation practice and is often characterized by simplicity > and rigor. > www.pbs.org/thebuddha/glossary/ > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.pbs.org/thebuddha/glossary/&rc\ > t=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CE4QngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNFr4ao\ > uOZ2oAlVrhJbGHdGCdTE08Q> > > * (Japanese) Buddhist school or sect favouring meditation and > intuition rather than scripture as a means to enlightenment, which > passed from China to Japan in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. > www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/history/glossary_tz.htm > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/histo\ > ry/glossary_tz.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CFAQngkwAQ&\ > q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNF5AI2VoP7CtRibNEMDwcHfJKY7LA> > > * Meditative absorption in which all dualistic distinctions are > eliminated. > www.zentexts.org/zen-term.html > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.zentexts.org/zen-term.html&rct\ > =j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CFIQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNG0G8hS\ > uTNf7BO423q_1VYxFUAplw> > > * A meditative form of Buddhist practice that developed in China in > the 5-7th Century and then spread to Japan and Korea. WIkipedia article. > www.gaiahouse.co.uk/page.php > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.gaiahouse.co.uk/page.php%3Fid%\ > 3D150&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CFQQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQ\ > jCNFaHBr6hSw_a72SmHTBwTC-AkWAjw> > > * The Japanese word for a branch of Mahayana Buddhism based on highly > disciplined meditation. It is known in Sanskrit as dhyana, in Chinese as > chan, and in Korean as son. (p. 289) > college.cengage.com/history/world/bulliet/earth_peoples/2e/stud¡ > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://college.cengage.com/history/world/\ > bulliet/earth_peoples/2e/students/glossary/index.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlG\ > UJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CFYQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNEW-rDySNhU9h1IOro-jWy\ > WAQA2hQ> > > * A school of Mahayana Buddhism, found mainly in China, Japan, Korea > and Vietnam, which emphasises the path of meditation and > self-realization. > www.transpersonalscience.org/tranglos.aspx > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.transpersonalscience.org/trang\ > los.aspx&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CFgQngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=\ > AFQjCNHmyzUucaianWxxt2zEipUhv2ko5g> > > * > > * (Japanese; Korean: Son; Chinese: Ch¡¯an; Sanskrit: Dhyana): > meditation practice. > www.kwanumzen.org/teachers-and-teaching/glossary-of-terms/ > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.kwanumzen.org/teachers-and-tea\ > ching/glossary-of-terms/&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CFwQn\ > gkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=AFQjCNGwCOz8VPSbw5Twf4igmjeEnmi79w> > > * An abbreviation of the Japanese word zenna,which is a > transliteration of the Sanskrit dhyana (ch¡¯an or ch¡¯anna in > Chinese), that is, the process of concentration and absorption by which > the mind is first stabilized and brought to a penetrating > one-pointedness, and then awakened. ... > www.windhorsezen.org/blog/ > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.windhorsezen.org/blog/%3Fpage_\ > id%3D252&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CF4QngkwAQ&q=Zen&usg=\ > AFQjCNFAHZMBvkZvNzqhn6H0omwSsjXF7w> > > * Japanese; Ch'an (Chinese); a branch of Mahayana Buddhism which > developed in China during the sixth and seventh centuries after > Bodhidharma arrived; it later divided into the Soto and Rinzai schools; > Zen stresses the importance of the enlightenment experience and the > futility of rational thought, ... > mokurai.destinyslobster.com/buddhist_glossary.html > <http://www.google.com/url?url=http://mokurai.destinyslobster.com/buddhi\ > st_glossary.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=oAlGUJ_lIIzYigLHj4C4Bg&ved=0CGAQngkwAQ&q=\ > Zen&usg=AFQjCNFSHw65w335jrEKO_Ml2P71oE1GOA> > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! 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