Kris,

>What you seek to attend to, is none other than that attending. Abiding as 
>whatever presents.

I agree. This is just another way of saying that consciousness arises with 
whatever presents from moment to moment (conditioned). But it's how we react, 
or not, to these moments that is the crux of whether we suffer... or not.


>There is no Buddha without Mara.

Again, I agree. I think there's a very shallow belief in Buddhism, including 
zen, that when someone becomes 'enlightened' they will experience a life free 
of attachments, desires and craving. If conditions are right, we can experience 
moments of liberation, but we live in a contingent world and so always need to 
pay attention to each and every moment.


>All teachings of Buddha are carried and delivered by Mara.

Nice.

>The Middle Way cannot be entered without Mara's invitation. Be mindful you 
>don't reject it.

Well, you know what they say about keeping your friends close to you, but your 
enemies closer ; )

Mike




________________________________
 From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, 10 September 2012, 2:55
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA
 

  
On 9/9/2012 3:34 PM, mike brown wrote:

  
>Kris,
>
>>The nature of this realized, cessation is effortless.
>
>We're contingent beings in a contingent world. We're born,
              we grow sick, we grow old, we die. In a contingent world
              we don't know what's just around the corner ready to
              befall us. In order to "realise" suffering fully we need
              to pay mindful attention to what impacts on us - not to
              just the external stimuli, but also to how we react to
              them inwardly.
While all this is so, these are not separate. 'No independent
    origination". Contingent. What you seek to attend to, is none other
    than that attending. Abiding as whatever presents.

Abiding is not optional. Delusions of not abiding take great effort
    to maintain (Abiding is not optional. Delusions of not abiding take
    great effort to maintain [Abiding is not optional. Delusions of not
    abiding take great effort to maintain.].)...

If you realize at least 1/3 of that last bit  - your mindfulness is
    sufficient. ;)


Even after Buddha's defeat of Mara, he was still 'visited' by Mara from time to 
time. life happens moment to moment and no over-riding state of 
mind/knowledge/understanding/Enlightenment will eradicate the potential to 
suffer at any time. All we can do is constantly practice mindfulness until our 
mind isn't so restless and we can be more aware of those first stirrings of the 
mind to be so reactive.
>
There is no Buddha without Mara. Neither victor nor vanquished was
    born to fight nor dies in the struggle. To conquer delusion is see
    it was never otherwise. Samsara is Nirvana. No other realization/no
    realization of other.

All teachings of Buddha are carried and delivered by Mara.

The Middle Way cannot be entered without Mara's invitation. Be
    mindful you don't reject it.

KG

 

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