KG silence can be shared.
.establishing a silent relationship is the most beautiful of all...no words 
need to be spoken 
 there is harmony and peace...merle
  
Either way, makes me out to be a thief. ;)


Silence cannot be shared, so we interrupt it with talking so as
      not to appear rude.


KG



On 9/8/2012 1:13 AM, Bill! wrote:

  
>Kris,
>
>When you say it I prefer 'Suchness'.
>
>...Bill!
>
>--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>>
>> "More" or less, misses the point again.
>> 
>> There is nothing to do to realize this. There is only
              this experiencing. 
>> 'You' and your 'experience(s)' of objects/events are
              but aspects of 
>> this, arising and passing. Nothing could be simpler.
>> 
>> Some realize this some don't. Doesn't change this.
              How could it [rhet]? 
>> I realize you may only see and/or express this
              otherwise. Such is the 
>> nature of appearances. Suchness ("Just this" if you
              prefer).
>> 
>> KG
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/8/2012 12:11 AM, Bill! wrote:
>> >
>> > Kris,
>> >
>> > More important than whether or not either of
              these personages actually 
>> > existed or how accurate the [translated]
              3rd-person accounts of what 
>> > they did and what they said is that YOU
              EXPERIENCE what they are said 
>> > to have experienced.
>> >
>> > And you can do that. I'm confident 10's of
              thousands or many more than 
>> > that have.
>> >
>> > ...Bill!
>> >
>> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, 
>> > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 9/7/2012 7:39 AM, mike brown wrote:
>> > > > There is a *big* difference between
              these stories of Buddha and
>> > > > Christ. With Buddha's story it makes
              no difference whether you 
>> > believe
>> > > > Buddha was a real man or not...
>> > >
>> > > So one you accept more readily because you
              believe it to likely be
>> > > allegorical, the other you reject because
              you believe it claims to be a
>> > > factual historical account? Surely you can
              see the irony in this.
>> > >
>> > > Every consider both/neither? That it
              doesn't mater whether EITHER of
>> > > these are stories of actual/factual others
              or not - as they only point
>> > > to selfless realization, and
              reintegration/embodiment? That they're 
>> > only
>> > > expressions of the way, and are not
              offering anyone else's
>> > > stories/practices/promises as things to
              cling to or reject? People take
>> > > that upon themselves.
>> > >
>> > > KG
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

 

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