Merle, Yes, religion and politics are often intertwined - and I think it in that case it is detrimental to both.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > bill.... yes nationalism... if you are going to bring that up...try looking > at the jews!...what are they on about?...religion and politics > intwined...merle > >  > Merle, > > My point is that (IMO) the Dalai Lama can't be both the political leader of > his country and the religious leader - especially if that religion is > anything close to Buddhism. (Actually the religion in Tibet is not Buddhist > but Lamaism, but most people including the Dalai Lama himself refer to it as > 'Tibetan Buddhism'.) > > Anyway as of 6 months ago or so the Dalai Lama renounced his position as the > political leader of Tibet. Maybe now he'll be able to minister to his people > a little better. > > To your other points, nationalism is just another attachment and one that > has caused and continues to cause a lot of suffering for a lot of people in > this world. "When will we learn? When will we ever learn?" - Blowin' in the > Wind, Bob Dylan > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > >  have you been to china bill!..i have been 3 times...the han chinese are > > the majority > > > > .. why are you attacking the Dalai lama?///// i know about tibet and the > > oppressive feudal regime...however i think you'd have to actually go to > > tibet to witness what is going on...the han chinese are flooding tibet...is > > that good?...estonia my home country was invaded by the russians in world > > war 2 and thanks to the allies the russians were "given " the baltic > > states...so estonia was governed by the kremlin and the russians flooded > > into estonia... since independence it is madatory that one can speak > > estonian in order to claim estonian citizenship( the russians would not > > learn the language..and the official language when the russians were in > > power was russian...it's not fun bill!..being overlorded by another > > country...so i say if the tibet wish to run their own country...then they > > should do so and change to modernise through that not have it imposed upon > > them by the han chinese... merle > > > > > >  > > Bill!, > >  > > Your remarks and quotes will make the great zombie lying in Tiananmen > > Square happy. But he would say, 'not enough, what I did dwarfs them'. > >  > > Anthony > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2012, 10:00 > > Subject: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA > > > > > > > > > > WOMAN LIKE CATTLE (and a lot of other information) > > > > "Tibetan Buddhism has a legacy of violence, hypocrisy, sexism, > > institutional sexual abuse, homophobia and religious rule by a dictator > > said to be a living god (the Dalai Lama) - all so the idle monk lifestyle > > could be supported by a feudal system of peasants who gave over half their > > labor/possessions. Although Chinese rule has been oppressive for the ruling > > Lamaist class and its defenders, is there ANY evidence to suggest that > > going back to rule of a feudal God-King would be better than the current > > system? Has ANY dictator ever ruled to the benefit of "his" people?" > > Source - http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/12/277073.shtml > > > > I hope these will suffice as 'evidence' of my opinions.  There are lots > > and lots of other sites and you can find them yourself by Binging > > or Goggling. > > > > ...Bill! > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
