On 10/7/2012 4:40 AM, billsmart wrote:
> Of the three states you have described below I would say that #1 is 
> the closest to describing a realization of Buddha Nature. When you 
> describe 'a space without thoughts' that IMO is very close.

Yes, good then you do not consider yourself a 'zen teacher'! *L*

With or without thoughts, closest to or furthest from, these are but 
conditional aspects. The heat and smoke of the fire, both holding us 
back from and obscuring our sight of this ever-present-ever-burning 
realization.

Everything instructs.

KG


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