KG,

The 'point' is what happens to the animals, not what someone thinks about it, 
or who makes what clever comeback about it...

Zen is not about personal feelings or words, it's about what really happens. 

Edgar



On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> A poke in the eye, and still he misses the point! *L*
> 
> On 10/9/2012 7:59 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> KG,
>> 
>> 
>> How egocentric! 
>> 
>> It matters to the animals which is much more important .....
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> FWIW - 'I' am my "indoor pet"  and, yes I am surgically sterilized.
>>> 
>>> What people do wth animals is of less concern than the shit they tell 
>>> themselves to justify it. Until that's sorted out, the rest is an ego fest.
>>> 
>>> KG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/9/2012 11:40 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Edgar,
>>>> 
>>>> My indoor pets are neutered. Aren't yours?
>>>> 
>>>> You may be an animal-breeder, then; a lucrative vocation/avocation.
>>>> 
>>>> --Joe
>>>> 
>>>> PS You must be a vegetarian then if you are not a cannibal, or Zombie.
>>>> 
>>>> PPS May I visit you in the stir for stepping on that ant?
>>>> 
>>>> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe and Merle,
>>>> > 
>>>> > Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well to both humans and 
>>>> > other species.... 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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