It's the logical consequence of your argument...

Edgar



On Oct 10, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> I'd ask you where you get this shit, if it wasn't obvious.
> 
> KG
> 
> On 10/10/2012 10:44 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> KG,
>> 
>> 
>> So you don't mind being tortured or killed? That's not what I gathered from 
>> your biographical posts...
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The butcher fancies himself Tenzo! *L*
>>> 
>>> More slice and dice rationality. Self-serving bite sized pieces. Just the 
>>> way you like it. Just what you think.
>>> 
>>> The point, is you are drawing and quartering 'the Ox'.
>>> 
>>> You may draw it so, to illustrate this or that, but that is not one of the 
>>> original ten pictures.
>>> 
>>> This 'importance' approach creates a logical dead end. Appearing to be an 
>>> answer, it is but a self-sustaining 'strange loop' of rationality - wholly 
>>> self-serving and self-supporting. This is what 'really happens' when you 
>>> carve up bits of what "Zen is" to serve in a tasteless broth of what "Zen' 
>>> is not".
>>> 
>>> If it appears I am only trying to be "clever" in these posts, look again at 
>>> the cloven tracks before you...
>>> 
>>> KG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/10/2012 5:56 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> KG,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The 'point' is what happens to the animals, not what someone thinks about 
>>>> it, or who makes what clever comeback about it...
>>>> 
>>>> Zen is not about personal feelings or words, it's about what really 
>>>> happens. 
>>>> 
>>>> Edgar
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> A poke in the eye, and still he misses the point! *L*
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/9/2012 7:59 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> KG,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How egocentric! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It matters to the animals which is much more important .....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> FWIW - 'I' am my "indoor pet"  and, yes I am surgically sterilized.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What people do wth animals is of less concern than the shit they tell 
>>>>>>> themselves to justify it. Until that's sorted out, the rest is an ego 
>>>>>>> fest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> KG
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/9/2012 11:40 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Edgar,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My indoor pets are neutered. Aren't yours?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You may be an animal-breeder, then; a lucrative vocation/avocation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --Joe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PS You must be a vegetarian then if you are not a cannibal, or Zombie.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PPS May I visit you in the stir for stepping on that ant?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Joe and Merle,
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well to both humans 
>>>>>>>> > and other species.... 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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