Edgar,

We're all going to die - it's how we live our life up to that point (there is 
no 'after' death, or indeed any such thing as 'death' to feel bad about being 
killed anyway). Yes, I'd rather be killed than be the killer. A killer will 
never know peace.

>Get real!

Keeping it real.

Mike





________________________________
 From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 11:45
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice
 

  
Mike,

Total crap!

OK, let's put it to the test. I'll send someone over to kill you and then I'll 
feel bad about it.

Will you opt out because of your life or me feeling bad about it?

Get real!

Edgar




On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:34 AM, mike brown wrote:

  
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>Edgar,
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>>It matters to the animals which is much more important .....
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>I'm not so sure. I think it could be said that a person who causes death, or 
>injury, to another actually suffers more than the person/animal harmed. But 
>then again, I'm an old school First Noble Truth kinda guy.
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>Mike
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>________________________________
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 10 October 2012, 0:59
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice
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>KG,
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>How egocentric! 
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>It matters to the animals which is much more important .....
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>Edgar
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>On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
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>>FWIW - 'I' am my "indoor pet"  and, yes I am surgically sterilized.
>>
>>What people do wth animals is of less concern than the shit they
      tell themselves to justify it. Until that's sorted out, the rest
      is an ego fest.
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>>KG
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>>On 10/9/2012 11:40 AM, Joe wrote:
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>>>Edgar,
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>>>My indoor pets are neutered. Aren't yours?
>>>
>>>You may be an animal-breeder, then; a lucrative
              vocation/avocation.
>>>
>>>--Joe
>>>
>>>PS You must be a vegetarian then if you are not a
              cannibal, or Zombie.
>>>
>>>PPS May I visit you in the stir for stepping on that ant?
>>>
>>>> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe and Merle,
>>>> 
>>>> Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well
              to both humans and other species.... 
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