KG,

So you don't mind being tortured or killed? That's not what I gathered from 
your biographical posts...

Edgar



On Oct 10, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> The butcher fancies himself Tenzo! *L*
> 
> More slice and dice rationality. Self-serving bite sized pieces. Just the way 
> you like it. Just what you think.
> 
> The point, is you are drawing and quartering 'the Ox'.
> 
> You may draw it so, to illustrate this or that, but that is not one of the 
> original ten pictures.
> 
> This 'importance' approach creates a logical dead end. Appearing to be an 
> answer, it is but a self-sustaining 'strange loop' of rationality - wholly 
> self-serving and self-supporting. This is what 'really happens' when you 
> carve up bits of what "Zen is" to serve in a tasteless broth of what "Zen' is 
> not".
> 
> If it appears I am only trying to be "clever" in these posts, look again at 
> the cloven tracks before you...
> 
> KG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/10/2012 5:56 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> KG,
>> 
>> 
>> The 'point' is what happens to the animals, not what someone thinks about 
>> it, or who makes what clever comeback about it...
>> 
>> Zen is not about personal feelings or words, it's about what really happens. 
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> A poke in the eye, and still he misses the point! *L*
>>> 
>>> On 10/9/2012 7:59 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> KG,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How egocentric! 
>>>> 
>>>> It matters to the animals which is much more important .....
>>>> 
>>>> Edgar
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> FWIW - 'I' am my "indoor pet"  and, yes I am surgically sterilized.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What people do wth animals is of less concern than the shit they tell 
>>>>> themselves to justify it. Until that's sorted out, the rest is an ego 
>>>>> fest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> KG
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/9/2012 11:40 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Edgar,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My indoor pets are neutered. Aren't yours?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You may be an animal-breeder, then; a lucrative vocation/avocation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS You must be a vegetarian then if you are not a cannibal, or Zombie.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PPS May I visit you in the stir for stepping on that ant?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Joe and Merle,
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well to both humans and 
>>>>>> > other species.... 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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