Joe, I agree wholeheartedly...Bill!
--- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Edgar, > > I think that all you, and Bill!, and Suresh say about attachment is valuable, > and that, yes, attachment is a consequence of the trust we put in our sense > of a separate self. > > I will add that the sense of a separate self disappears at awakening, and > afterward. We then "fill" our full Human nature and regain all our Human > inheritance. > > With the disappearance of a separate self comes the disappearance of > attachment(s). > > In our awakened state, we have no attachments, but we are still able to live > our lives safely and naturally. We are not "attached" to helping or saving > others, but we help and save anyway, because it is our nature to do so. We > do it without attachment, and not "for ourselves", nor even for "others!" We > do these things spontaneously and without hesitation. > > There is no planning, and no check-list consulted. > > There are no "others", in the awakened state. We have only a natural > response to conditions just as they arise: we rely on no memory of how to > behave, and we have no sticking-points, neither culturally nor educationally > gained. We can USE our cultural and educational endowments freely, but they > do not limit us. > > The Diamond Sutra summarizes this in ONE phrase: ONE admonishment, or ONE > description. It is: > > "Abiding nowhere, let the mind work." > > Sticking nowhere, attaching to nothing, let the mind operate; as Wisdom and > Compassion arise spontaneously, just spontaneously respond. > > That's the prescription for, the description of, a wonderful life. > > We are not blown on the wind, because our Nature keeps us on track at every > instant. This is truly wonderful. And it is our nature to be so, and to > live like this. > > Awakening usually does not last. But depending on the strength of the > awakening, within several weeks or months, the sense of a separate self may > begin to return. And so do attachments. But the attachments may be less. > We have seen our original face, and lived differently. > > Afterward, a further awakening may occur when conditions are right, again. > And we live again in the awakened state for a time, before it, too, erodes > again. > > And so on. > > If we are really lucky, maybe the cycle breaks and we remain submerged always > in our nature. Or we become content to note that perhaps delusion is part of > our nature, too, and Practice then becomes very easy for us, and never > separate from all the details of our everyday life. > > But, understand: "Abiding nowhere, let the mind work", is not a PRACTICE. It > is the description of a RESULT. It is a description of the awakened human > being's LIFE, as a result of effective practice. > > Well, may it be so for "all", > > --Joe > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > Suresh, > > > > Attachment is a very valuable evolutionary survival mechanism. > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
