Bill!..what is it that you and edgar disagree on?... is this just childish one up manship? as we are all ONE then stands to reason..edgar and you are still on the same coin so to speak how is your island reading going ? merle
Merle, I am 'listening' (reading actually), but there's nothing in this post for me to learn, nothing new anyway. I already am aware of how much Edgar and I disagree on zen - and I knew that already. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  yes bill!..edgar is back.. > edgar is on the cutting edge..are you listening?... and need i say > learning?..merle > > >  > Suresh, > > Attachment is a very valuable evolutionary survival mechanism. It's a > fundamental part of human nature similar to what we share with other species. > With no attachments individual humans would have no motivation or direction > and would not survive. > > The problem is not attachments per se. We all use attachments every day to go > about our lives successfully. That's what enables people to sustain material > success in life. The problem is excessive attachment, or attachment to your > attachments. The problem is excessive attachments THAT DO NOT MESH WITH WHAT > IS REAL or attainable. > > For example a man's attachment to THE IDEA OF an unattainable woman, or an > unattainable position in society. Attachment to the unattainable causes > suffering. > > However attachment to the ATTAINABLE maintains physical and social life. > > However things can change. When one loses something one was attached to > realization demands changing one's attachment to it to mirror the new state > of reality. > > Zen is not as simple as many imagine! > > Edgar > > > > > On Oct 20, 2012, at 1:38 AM, SURESH JAGADEESAN wrote: > >  > > > > > >Bill > >Why do human liked to get attached? > >What is the root cause for attachment? > >Suresh > >On Oct 20, 2012 8:38 AM, "Merle Lester" <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (merlewiitpom@...) Add > > cleanup rule | More info > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> so how does one NOT be attached to these emotions eh?..merle > >> > >>Merle, > >> > >>No, these in-and-of themselves are not attachments. They are concepts > >>(mental models), and in some case emotions - and it is not these that cause > >>suffering. It is ATTACHMENTS to these that cause suffering. > >> > >>...Bill! > >> > >>--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>  thanks..are they attachments?... merle > >>> Merle, > >>> > >>> > >>> Love is not exactly the OPPOSITE of hate, but love/hate is a dualistic > >>> pair - like good/bad, tall/short, hot/cold, yin/yang, etc... > >>> > >>> ...Bill! > >>> > >>> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >  tell me more BILLLL....... Love is it the opposite of > >>> > hate????? merle > >>> >  > >>> > I agree with James. > >>> > > >>> > As with all emotions like fear, anger, love, hate it is not the emotion > >>> > that is the real problem, it is the ATTACHMENT to the emotion. > >>> > > >>> > ...Bill! > >>> > > >>> > --- In [email protected], "James W. Meritt" <JWMeritt@> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Not so sure getting rid of fear is a good thing. I see having fear, > >>> > > but modifying how you use and react to it as a good thing. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > James W. Meritt > >>> > > CISSP, CISA, NSA IAM, PMP > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
