Bill, Me "pretending to have network connectivity issues" so I wouldn't have to respond to you!
Talk about illusion! I hope you meant that humorously though I see no smiley... Edgar On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Bill! wrote: > Merle, > > Edgar and my entire disagreement on zen is centered around understanding > versus experience. > > My 'Daily Repeating Question' for him while he was absent and pretending to > have network connectivity difficulties was asking him just that: 'What role > does intelligence play in realizing Buddha Nature?' In the end he wisely > refused to answer. > > Just recently he referred to 'intellectual koans' - which is a complete > oxymoron. He and I exchanged two short retorts about this, but with the > exception of just a couple people on the forum I'm sure it went by unnoticed. > > What's your opinion on this? Do you think intelligence (the ability to > understand, rationality, the ability to draw logical inferences,etc...) plays > an indispensable role in realizing Buddha Nature? > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > > > > >  bill...sorry to disappoint you... however edgar also says it like it > > IS..merle > > > > > >  > > Merle, > > > > I believed you did not know this because of your MANY posts recently > > supporting Edgar's continual assertions that UNDERSTANDING is necessary for > > realizing Buddha Nature. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  but of course BILL.... what makes you believe i did not know > > > this?...merle > > > > > > > > >  > > > Merle, > > > > > > Because Buddha Nature is not something you understand, it's something you > > > experience...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > >  why not ?..merle > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > Yes. That's why I wrote it. > > > > > > > > Huxley's 'Attention! Attention! Here and Now Boys! Here and Now Boys!' > > > > is the same thing as Joshu's 'The Oak Tree in the Garden' and 'Mu'', > > > > Unmon's 'Dried Shit-Stick' Tozan's 'Three Pounds of Flax' and my 'Just > > > > THIS!'. > > > > > > > > Understand? (...and you better not answer 'YES!!!!') > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ and is that not what the repeat as the mantra in > > > > > the island novel?...merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > Or, if you prefer, "Attention! Attention! Here and Now Boy! Here and > > > > > Now!" > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > The latter, I think. I imagine it was fashioned in the form of a > > > > > > flat blade, like a palette-knife, or putty knife, probably from a > > > > > > broad thin piece of architectural bamboo. > > > > > > > > > > > > It must have been a common enough accessory in use at the Ch'an > > > > > > monasteries, some of which housed hundreds of monks or nuns, and > > > > > > the latrines must have been extensive. And so the Master made use > > > > > > of the stick as an example, in his teaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > Others might have answered, "The Oak Tree in the court yard" (but > > > > > > at some of the monasteries on high mountains, Oaks did not grow, > > > > > > but mostly Pines did/do). Bamboo could be brought up from below, > > > > > > for building, and for implements. > > > > > > > > > > > > Still others might have answered, "Just THIS!". > > > > > > > > > > > > The Master was very compassionate, bringing the student back into > > > > > > the "here and now" with what he said and how he said it. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huh??????? wiping what.... the toilet or the arse?.. > > > > > > > so it's an arse wiping stick? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
