Merle,

The 'brain' is an organ.  It should not be confused with the 'mind'.  Your 
brain performs a lot of functions of which participating with other organs to 
provide 'consciousness' is just one of them.

'Mind' is your intellect.

You don't need to know or understand any of this to realize Buddha 
Bature...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  you have to have a "brain" to be able to be..otherwise you are a vegetable 
> Bill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> what is the function of the brain...the mind? ..merle
> 
> 
>   
> Merle,
> 
> Edgar and my entire disagreement on zen is centered around understanding 
> versus experience.
> 
> My 'Daily Repeating Question' for him while he was absent and pretending to 
> have network connectivity difficulties was asking him just that:  'What role 
> does intelligence play in realizing Buddha Nature?'  In the end he wisely 
> refused to answer.
> 
> Just recently he referred to 'intellectual koans' - which is a complete 
> oxymoron.  He and I exchanged two short retorts about this, but with the 
> exception of just a couple people on the forum I'm sure it went by unnoticed.
> 
> What's your opinion on this?  Do you think intelligence (the ability to 
> understand, rationality, the ability to draw logical inferences,etc...) plays 
> an indispensable role in realizing Buddha Nature?
> 
> ...Bill! 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >  bill...sorry to disappoint you... however edgar also says it like it 
> > IS..merle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Merle,
> > 
> > I believed you did not know this because of your MANY posts recently 
> > supporting Edgar's continual assertions that UNDERSTANDING is necessary for 
> > realizing Buddha Nature.
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  but of course BILL.... what makes you believe i did not know 
> > > this?...merle
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Merle,
> > > 
> > > Because Buddha Nature is not something you understand, it's something you 
> > > experience...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ why not ?..merle
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > Merle,
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.  That's why I wrote it.
> > > > 
> > > > Huxley's 'Attention!  Attention!  Here and Now Boys!  Here and Now 
> > > > Boys!'  is the same thing as Joshu's 'The Oak Tree in the Garden' and 
> > > > 'Mu'', Unmon's 'Dried Shit-Stick' Tozan's 'Three Pounds of Flax' and my 
> > > > 'Just THIS!'.
> > > > 
> > > > Understand?  (...and you better not answer 'YES!!!!')
> > > > 
> > > > ...Bill! 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and is that not what the 
> > > > > repeat as the mantra in the island novel?...merle
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > > Merle,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or, if you prefer, "Attention!  Attention!  Here and Now Boy!  Here 
> > > > > and Now!"
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...Bill!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Merle,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The latter, I think.  I imagine it was fashioned in the form of a 
> > > > > > flat blade, like a palette-knife, or putty knife, probably from a 
> > > > > > broad thin piece of architectural bamboo.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It must have been a common enough accessory in use at the Ch'an 
> > > > > > monasteries, some of which housed hundreds of monks or nuns, and 
> > > > > > the latrines must have been extensive.  And so the Master made use 
> > > > > > of the stick as an example, in his teaching.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Others might have answered, "The Oak Tree in the court yard" (but 
> > > > > > at some of the monasteries on high mountains, Oaks did not grow, 
> > > > > > but mostly Pines did/do).  Bamboo could be brought up from below, 
> > > > > > for building, and for implements.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Still others might have answered, "Just THIS!".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Master was very compassionate, bringing the student back into 
> > > > > > the "here and now" with what he said and how he said it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --Joe
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > huh??????? wiping what.... the toilet or the arse?..
> > > > > > > so it's an arse wiping stick?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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