Merle,

My responses are as usual embedded in your post below:

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
 
>  billlllllllllll...you sound like you do not like edgar?

What I've said reveals nothing about my feelings for Edgar.

>  why not pray?

It's a useless activity, except perhaps to either make the one who's praying 
feel better.

>  what does pray mean to you?

'Pray' to me means to ask for something from someone who you think can give 
whatever you're asking for.

> what do you mean to whom?

I mean 'to whom would you pray'?  To God?  To Jehovah?  To Allah?  To Vishnu?  
To Buddha?  To Edgar?  To Sally?  To FEMA?  To whom?

>  pray is pray is pray

I can't argue with that.

> sacred

What do you mean 'sacred'?  There is nothing that's 'sacred'.  There's Just 
THIS!

> i careÂ

Okay.  I care too.
 
>  i pray

I don't.

>  that is that and again i ask why not?

I don't pray.  I don't do a lot of things.  Like, I also don't cut the heads 
off of chickens, smear my body with their blood, drink some intoxicant, stick 
pins in a doll and dance until I pass out hoping that will bring about 
something I want.

> compassion  universal love and understanding is that not pray?

No Merle, compassion and universal love and understanding is not prayer.  At 
least I don't equate these.

And one last thing...if you're going to pray, why just pray for Edgar?  Or for 
all those on the East Coast of the USA?  Or for all those in danger?  Why not 
just pray for EVERYBODY, EVERYWHERE?  Including yourself?

How about something like the first line of the 4 Bodhisattva vows:

Sentient beings are numberless, I vow to save them [all] - not just Edgar...

Now THAT'S compassion and universal love - but I'm not sure about universal 
understanding.  That's out of my scope.

...Bill!


> merle
>   
> Merle,
> 
> Why pray for Edgar?  And to whom?
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >  we must pray for edgar...
> >  merle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > >... wind-damage.
> > 
> > From Hurricane Sandy or Edgar? ; )
> > 
> > Ps You know we love you, Edgar!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Joe <desert_woodworker@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 22:07
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Edgar!  Watch Out!!!
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Edgar,
> > 
> > You LOOK ok.  Is that YOU, wading ashore?  Good.  I feel that all is right 
> > with the Whirled, then.  Now.
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > PS  Group: Unless he has a gasoline powered generator, he may be off line 
> > for a bit.  And the Internet providers there will have their problems, too, 
> > for a few days, as may the phone companies, if Edgar has DSL.  But, hopes 
> > that our co-Moderator is safe!, and that his antiquities collection did not 
> > experience flooding nor wind-damage.  I could have warned about this a week 
> > ago when Edgar avowed that it was not cloudy in New Jersey: We're 
> > clear-eyed in the Desert... when sand does not make us blink.  We did not 
> > blink.  Be safe, stay safe.
> > 
> > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > are you ok edgar?..merle
> >
>



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