Edgar and Joe,

I forgot to mention that both centers also had a full-time, live-in program.  
It was primarily for those that aspired to be or were already Buddhist monks.  
Some of these lived near the center on their own but some stayed at the center 
full-time.  And of course the senior monks and some others were considered 
'staff' and helped run the center along with the Zen Master (Roshi in this 
case).

...Bill!  

--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Edgar and Joe,
> 
> I don't know how it is now, but back in the 'good old days' (which in my case 
> is the 1960's) zen centers operated on a pretty sparse budget.  I was 
> involved with two during that time, one intimately and over close to a 
> 10-year period and the other casually and only over a 1+ year period.  Both 
> of these had pretty much the same programs and the same procedures.  One 
> center was in an urban area and one was in a secluded area in the mountains.
> 
> The urban center hosted a half-day Beginning Seminar free.  Anyone could 
> attend and there was no reservations required.  Tea was served in the morning 
> and light refreshments (more tea and some cookies) were served afterwards.
> 
> They both had weekend, one-week and month-long sesshins (meditation 
> retreats).  Meals were served and accommodations provided for those not 
> living in the area - or that wanted to stay there.  There were fees for the 
> meals and accommodations but as I remember they were not exorbitant and could 
> be reduced or waived for people who needed that.
> 
> Occasionally there were 'special' one-week or month-long sesshins that 
> featured other compatible practices like tai chi, qigong, poetry, etc...  
> These could have a higher fee.
> 
> I don't remember what these fees were but I was just a working stiff then and 
> certainly not rich.  I know the fees were comfortable for me, and if I 
> remember correctly I considered them actually less than it would have cost me 
> to live at home for the week or month.
> 
> And like I said I did know that some participants could not pay and that did 
> not present a problem for the centers.
> 
> Just a little FYI...Bill!  
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> >
> > O, Edgar,
> > 
> > If you were never taught there about the practice of Dana, then you were 
> > cheated.  I'd demand your Voided-check back if I were you.
> > 
> > You mean you only had to work in the Vegetable garden six hours a day on 
> > their/your sesshin(s)?
> > 
> > If not, you'll have a big debt to pay to the benefactors in the hereafter, 
> > or the underworld.
> > 
> > You could make this right if you make an offering now.  Is anybody still 
> > alive, there?
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In all my practice at Zen temples there was never any charge at all. 
> > > Lessons, food and board were all gratis...
> >
>




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