Bill,

Tea and COOKIES?! How decadently Western!


Our meals consisted of a small bowl of steaming hot rice gruel with an umebashi 
on top and a small bowl of cooked vegetables.

Edgar



On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar and Joe,
> 
> I don't know how it is now, but back in the 'good old days' (which in my case 
> is the 1960's) zen centers operated on a pretty sparse budget. I was involved 
> with two during that time, one intimately and over close to a 10-year period 
> and the other casually and only over a 1+ year period. Both of these had 
> pretty much the same programs and the same procedures. One center was in an 
> urban area and one was in a secluded area in the mountains.
> 
> The urban center hosted a half-day Beginning Seminar free. Anyone could 
> attend and there was no reservations required. Tea was served in the morning 
> and light refreshments (more tea and some cookies) were served afterwards.
> 
> They both had weekend, one-week and month-long sesshins (meditation 
> retreats). Meals were served and accommodations provided for those not living 
> in the area - or that wanted to stay there. There were fees for the meals and 
> accommodations but as I remember they were not exorbitant and could be 
> reduced or waived for people who needed that.
> 
> Occasionally there were 'special' one-week or month-long sesshins that 
> featured other compatible practices like tai chi, qigong, poetry, etc... 
> These could have a higher fee.
> 
> I don't remember what these fees were but I was just a working stiff then and 
> certainly not rich. I know the fees were comfortable for me, and if I 
> remember correctly I considered them actually less than it would have cost me 
> to live at home for the week or month.
> 
> And like I said I did know that some participants could not pay and that did 
> not present a problem for the centers.
> 
> Just a little FYI...Bill! 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > O, Edgar,
> > 
> > If you were never taught there about the practice of Dana, then you were 
> > cheated. I'd demand your Voided-check back if I were you.
> > 
> > You mean you only had to work in the Vegetable garden six hours a day on 
> > their/your sesshin(s)?
> > 
> > If not, you'll have a big debt to pay to the benefactors in the hereafter, 
> > or the underworld.
> > 
> > You could make this right if you make an offering now. Is anybody still 
> > alive, there?
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In all my practice at Zen temples there was never any charge at all. 
> > > Lessons, food and board were all gratis...
> >
> 
> 

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