edgar.

.crap...
get out your philosophy book and start again!

 i'm not arguing with you here until you do some  homework

 merle

  
Merle,

Beauty is not truth, nor is truth beauty. That's why they are two different 
words. Look up the defs.

Truth is a logical concept; in Zen terms it's what's real as opposed to 
illusion. Beauty's an emotional response in the eye of the beholder... 

"Beauty is truth" is one of those many saccharin warm and fuzzy platitudes that 
fall apart when analyzed.

Edgar




On Nov 24, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Merle Lester wrote:

  
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>.beauty is truth..,,,,
> abstract art is representing in many cases states of mind..
>.take time out to examine the theories of paul klee, kandinsky and 
>mondrian..then get back to me..
>.i have had discussions  of this kind with many folk..
>.how to open their eyes that's like trying to open a can of  beans with one's 
>teeth..
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>Merle,
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>That's a long and complex topic probably not OT here. Generally I prefer 
>representational art, but art which clearly conveys some Zen like spiritual 
>realization or insight, or something of exceptional beauty...
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>On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
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>> edgar..so it's you "hiding in the bushes" who does not think much of 
>>picasso's art.
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>>.shame on you.
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>>..who do you think much of in the art world?
>> merle
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>>Joe,
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>>I don't think much of Picasso's art but I do really like his quote that "Art 
>>is lies that tell the truth."
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>>AND it's important to understand that quote applies ALSO to illusions in Zen.
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>>Illusions ARE lies that tell the truth. That is illusions are illusory but 
>>they reveal Buddha Nature.
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>>A great Zen saying from Picasso slightly altered!
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>>On Nov 24, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Joe wrote:
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>>>Merle,
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>>>Sorry, what do you mean, there?  I missed it.  "Thought as much" about what?
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>>>Maybe you mean you don't care for _en plein air_ paintings, or realistic 
>>>space art.  Note that when Bill paints earth landscapes, he is still doing 
>>>space art (so is every landscape painter).
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>>>I respect Picasso, and like his art.  I often quote his wonderful line, and 
>>>use it when I teach Buddhist Yoga classes, and beginning Ch'an meditation:
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>>>"Art is a lie that reveals the truth."
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>>>I've stood in front of "Guernica" at MoMA for long periods, repeatedly.
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>>>Tell me something about your reaction to any of Bill Hartmann's work.
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>>>My favorite paintings today, and on many days, are by Joan Miro.
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>>>--Joe
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>>>> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
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>>>>  joe...i thought as much...hartmann.... mmm..if you like that sort of 
>>>> thing go for it..
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>>>> . so what do you think of picasso and guernica?..was it you or billllll 
>>>> that said picasso was "crap"?
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>>>> my all time favourite artists are kandinsky, klee and mondrian... all 3 
>>>> artists shed light on their understanding of the spirituality of art as 
>>>> well..... merle
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