Bill!,
I think, too, that's there's wisdom in certain Folk Expressions (although that
wisdom cannot to be applied in all circumstances, and requires discernment when
it comes to cases).
For example, the expression, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", shows
that everybody understands *in our culture* that beauty is relative, and is not
necessarily as infallibly true for all as Truth itself is.
(at closing time, and at last calls -- I hear tell -- people even joke about
it's being in the eyes of the beer-holder).
It takes "Poetry in the soul" to join Truth and Beauty, and Merle has done
this. But I think we all agree that the words have different meanings, and
that sometimes a referent does indeed exemplify BOTH, and not always.
Pretty simple stuff, overall, but I wanted to bring in the presence of, and the
long-standing establishment of, Folk Wisdom. Cultural antiquities!, often with
no certain provenance; but Human. And not always based on illusion(s): that's
why it's called "wisdom" (I keep the "w" small, here). It's practical wisdom,
tried and true, transmitted down the generations.
--Joe
PS The US Supreme Court needs to re-think the "Citizen's United" decision, and
probably will be impelled to. This is the decision that effectively equates
Money with Speech. Now, Folk Wisdom sometimes morphs into commands, or
suggestions: for example, "Put your money where your mouth is!" If money were
speech, it would *already* be in the mouth, and there would never have been any
need, over ALL the centuries that this expression has been extant in English,
for this expression to exist, to form, and to survive, and no occasion to use
it. Nor could it be hoped that speech could ever be understood, suffering such
an oral impediment.
> "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Edgar,
>
> You're right. My statement below, as most of my statements are, is
> constructed using prose in a fairly strict subject/object-oriented language
> (English). When I said "Buddha Nature experiences Reality just as it is." I
> could have better said it the way you did below.
>
> But even that phraseology "Truth is the manifestation of Buddha Nature..." is
> not quite right either. Buddha Nature doesn't manifest anything. Buddha
> Nature, Truth, Reality, Experience are all IMO just different names for the
> same thing. That's why I ended my post with the phrase which is as close as
> I can come in English prose to describing Buddha Nature: 'Just This!'.
>
> But I think we also agree that Beauty is another thing entirely. Beauty is a
> dualistic, relative human judgement.
>
> ...Bill!
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