Edgar,

The twig-and-branch collector, again: you; showing what he thinks he's good at. 
 Get over it already.  It's truly foolish, and you are the laughing-stock here. 
 But it's a consistently sad spectacle you present; sickly posturing. 

Nobody's impressed nor will be impressed until you have a mature practice, not 
an overgrown-adolescent intellectual legal-practice that seeks to find fraud in 
observations made by true practitioners.  You can't get with the program, 
because you are not of it and never have been.  It's "icckky" in an old man, 
too, already, so please stop.  Aren't you embarrassed?  I say, "yes", you are, 
and that's why you behave this way, pitiably knowing NO other cover for your 
half-nakedness.  It's not working for you.  You are a fool with delusions of 
adequacy.  I tell you this as a brother.

Attend:

Bill! notes that awakening is a time when everything drops.  He did NOT have to 
go on and elaborate for us, but for you he DOES, and he did, because of his 
compassion.  But you grab at the twigs only, and try to erase the point Bill! 
makes, with, again, a childish attempt to pretend a fixation upon 
irrelevancies, tellin Bill! what's "important"!, because you do not know with 
your own feet the ground from which Bill!'s observation is made, you have not 
been in that country.  Your small mind is the kid-napper that won't let you go 
home!, and neither can you go outside the perverted kidnapper's house for fresh 
air and a look at the natural landscape.  Poor little boy.

And Fool, with delusions of adequacy.

We feel for you, lil' brother!  In your dark.  But ...you're ...not THERE!

The green is not a pea-pod after all; it's jaundice.

Take the remedy; get on with it.  Put down.  Put it all down.

--Joe

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> The important point in your post below is to realize that during your 
> shikantaza you are still dwelling partially in the world of forms because you 
> still dualistically discriminate what you note below...
> 
> On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Bill! wrote:
> 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > In other words a complete realization of Buddha Nature and a dropping of 
> > ALL illusion (like during shikantaza) does not drop feeling (or hearing, 
> > seeing, smelling, tasting) but does drop emotional 'pain'.




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