I am certainly not training in zen so people will speak well of me, nor to become a copy of the masters that brought the teaching to the US. If anything, I hope I will be more what I am meant to be, and that you will be more what you are meant to be.
However, your words remind me of a truism of parenting: If some parent observes you and comments, "You are so patient!" then the odds are your subjective experience is of impatience - not responding with impatient actions or words to the feeling of impatience, but the feeling arising non the less. --Chris Thanks, --Chris [email protected] +1-301-270-6524 On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, > > I won't *say* what the first principle of Zen is. But I'll say that, > although everything changes at awakening, nonetheless, others will say about > you that you are optimistic and positive, even as never before. You may not > think so, but that goes with the territory, too, and if you can entertain ANY > thought at all, well, that would be amazing: just TRY! ;-) > > --Joe > >> ChrisAustinLane <chris@...> wrote: >> >> Isn't the first principal of Zen to abandon hope and optimism? What we have >> in front of us is our task. Any thought of it as good or bad (or getting >> better in the so-called future) takes us away from the glory of that task. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
