Chris,

Heh-heh, of course not.

But nonetheless, after awakening, family or friends or strangers may give you 
feedback or praise, which could lead to those thoughts, if you were capable of 
entertaining thoughts.

Information may come from all sides, but it does not necessarily stick to us, 
and tells us more about others than about ourselves... about whom we have no 
doubt.  ;-)

--Joe

> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I am certainly not training in zen so people will speak well of me,
> nor to become a copy of the masters that brought the teaching to the
> US.  If anything, I hope I will be more what I am meant to be, and
> that you will be more what you are meant to be.
> 
> However, your words remind me of a truism of parenting:
> 
> If some parent observes you and comments, "You are so patient!" then
> the odds are your subjective experience is of impatience - not
> responding with impatient actions or words to the feeling of
> impatience, but the feeling arising non the less.

> 
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Joe <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > I won't *say* what the first principle of Zen is.  But I'll say that, 
> > although everything changes at awakening, nonetheless, others will say 
> > about you that you are optimistic and positive, even as never before.  You 
> > may not think so, but that goes with the territory, too, and if you can 
> > entertain ANY thought at all, well, that would be amazing: just TRY!  ;-)




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