Hi Joe, thanks for the reply, I've made a few comments below. --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > As Buddhists, where no God is postulated, we nonetheless speak of the > Absolute and the Relative; or, as these ideas from Taoism are called, the > One, and the 10000 Things. >
I thought the absolute in Taoism would be the eternal Tao not the one. First there was the eternal Tao from the Tao came the one from the one came the two from the two came the three from the three came the ten thousand other things. Isn't the one, two and the three, the observer, the act of observation and the object observed and from this comes the ten thousand things. Isn't the one the first act of seperation from the Tao? --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > In Zen practice, we can awaken, and indeed experience and live from > Emptiness, which may otherwise be called no-mind. That is rather a boring > state, although it is wonderful. Some prefer the busy, active, manufactured, > illusory mind, full of illusions and playful things, and a "self", all of > which are, however, also painful, due to Impermanence and Dukha. > Yes, but the rub is, is that the experiencer, the experience and the act of experiencing are merged in the full state of no-mind and this state cannot be experienced, the experience comes when you have actually seperated from no-mind.It cannot be boring or wonderful, this is simply a judgement of the state of no-mind in retrospect once one has seperated from the non experience of no-mind. There is a difference between no-mind and the experience of no-mind. Iain. ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
