i have read the sufism as well back in mid 80's... i saw the dervish dancers in early 2000... i am familiar with their insights and at one stage considered them the "ants pants"... and would have given my right arm to discuss sufism... merle
Salik, Hang around if you can, the water's usually fine. Unless you're just headed off to work at this hour, or something. Another Sufi pair of wings is most welcome. Pls. take good care of yourself! Aloha; Salam, --Joe > "salik888" wrote: > > Joe > > Agreed, the word Dharma is at best introductory, a basic perception . . . > > I don't have time to look for it, maybe someone has it at their disposal the > zen story about rivers and mountains being mountains, then rivers and > mountains not being mountains, and then rivers and mountains being mountains. > > As said I am headed out the door, duty calls . . . > > But most importantly, both Bill and you are urging strong practice. > > On another post someone took Bill to task, jokingly I am sure, for only > practicing a certain amount of time. Some people don't need to meditate a > great deal. Some, it is written, for I have not witnessed it, move quickly > into samadhi. Although most do not. I certainly do not. I schlogg away at it > like an Ozarkian turnip eater just off the wagon. > > I like that, strong practice . . . > > /\ > > zendervish > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > Salik, > > > > I think in the orthodox understanding of the usage in the Soto sect you > > mention it, the meaning of Dharma in "Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha" is the > > Teaching of the Buddha, which Bill! shows as def. #3 from the dictionary > > contents placed online for access. > > > > Of course we can understand it as we like when we practice, it's impossible > > to limit it by making it narrower, and impossible to make it too broad, for > > practice purposes. When we awaken, it will be clear as ICE what it means. > > > > The definition is a calling card. We must call the number to reach the > > party we want. Or better, make our way to the address and have a visit in > > person. > > > > Strong practice, > > > > --Joe
