Bill Sleep . . . walking sleep
Good point, how many times have we all of driven somewhere or was doing something and then recieved a shock and woke up into the present and could not recall traveling through where we had just been. In the Gurdjieff scheme of things they question -- what kind of consciousness is this? And also point out that during times of presence and awareness our memories are more vivid. /\ zendervish --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Merle, > > Indeed everyday life can be meditation in practice, but it can also be just a > blur of memories, judgments, projections - in other words illusion. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Â life is meditation in practise!..merle > > > > > > Â > > Joe > > > > Agreed, the word Dharma is at best introductory, a basic perception . . . > > > > I don't have time to look for it, maybe someone has it at their disposal > > the zen story about rivers and mountains being mountains, then rivers and > > mountains not being mountains, and then rivers and mountains being > > mountains. > > > > As said I am headed out the door, duty calls . . . > > > > But most importantly, both Bill and you are urging strong practice. > > > > On another post someone took Bill to task, jokingly I am sure, for only > > practicing a certain amount of time. Some people don't need to meditate a > > great deal. Some, it is written, for I have not witnessed it, move quickly > > into samadhi. Although most do not. I certainly do not. I schlogg away at > > it like an Ozarkian turnip eater just off the wagon. > > > > I like that, strong practice . . . > > > > /\ > > > > zendervish > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Salik, > > > > > > I think in the orthodox understanding of the usage in the Soto sect you > > > mention it, the meaning of Dharma in "Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha" is the > > > Teaching of the Buddha, which Bill! shows as def. #3 from the dictionary > > > contents placed online for access. > > > > > > Of course we can understand it as we like when we practice, it's > > > impossible to limit it by making it narrower, and impossible to make it > > > too broad, for practice purposes. When we awaken, it will be clear as > > > ICE what it means. > > > > > > The definition is a calling card. We must call the number to reach the > > > party we want. Or better, make our way to the address and have a visit > > > in person. > > > > > > Strong practice, > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > "salik888" wrote: > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Contextually, using conventional agreed upon consensus building in > > > > terms of Religion, history, cultural, etc . . . I would choose 3 when > > > > speaking of Buddhism in the big picture as taught . . . but we were not > > > > talking about this, Buddhism, Zen Buddhism, etc . . . I used it in, > > > > shall we say, a metaphysical way, the way anyone who might have a > > > > slight bent this way would understand, intrinsically . . . is the > > > > dharma everpresent? Now? > > > > > > > > Since we understand the word to mean (I will take out the word nature, > > > > your assessment) and use 'what is', "is" not illusion, then Buddha, > > > > Dharma, and Sangah "is". > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
