Dear Kirk,

Salik, thank you!  That's enough for me to chew on for a week or more, until 
before the Ides of March.  Thank you again!

A favorite strange and dreamlike book for me is Hesse's THE GLASS BEAD GAME (or 
titled MAGISTER LUDI).  Do you suppose that's an example of Legomonism, too?

I've heard of William Segal.  Will look at him!

You're full of gifts; tnx.  Good sketching.

--Joe

> "salik888" <novelidea8@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Joe
> 
> We don't want to get too far afield, but I will sketch in a few things. 
> 
> Ouspensky was a student of Gurdjieff.
> 
> Meetings with Remarkable Men was based upon Gurdjieff's second book of All 
> and Everything
> 
> 1) Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson
> 2) Meetings With Remarkable Men
> 3) Life Is Only Real When I Am
> 
> Gurdjieff's work deals with oral teachings and the phenomena of Legomonism. 
> Anyone can google an introduction to what a Legomonism is -- examples: Chess, 
> Sphinx, Pyramids, Dante's Inferno, Epic of Gilgamesh, etc ...
> 
> Gurdjieff's work has been compared to Tibetan Buddhism, Taoism, Esoteric 
> Christianity, Yoga, Hermeticism, Gnosticism. Most likely it comes from 
> Central Asia, a small elect of either mythological deity/tradition, or an 
> Esoteric School. Bennett and others have said its origins is Sarmouni (The 
> Bees), the closes we have to this is the Sufi Kwaja tradition of Shah 
> Bauhadin . . . probably somewhere in Afghanistan. There are references to The 
> Bees in various esoteric forms of Buddhism, Taoism, and Sufism. One mention 
> of it is in Entry Into The Realm Of Reality, The Guide, by Li Tonxuan, 
> translate by Thomas Cleary. Thomas Cleary has a good introduction to this 
> Wester and Northern aspect of Buddhism and Taoism. There are plenty of 
> references to this in Gurdjieff's writings. Gurdjieff never taught or 
> operated on a literal teaching style, he always used other means to get the 
> student to question and discover for himself, so same thing with his 
> tradition and writings. Question and verify everything with experience.  
> 
> In my estimation Gurdjieff was not a syncretist. He also did not bring 
> another religion. It is a school, which the study of being is the subject. 
> You have teachers help you with this, with Group work. Although people come 
> and go, and all religious traditions are welcome. They don't teach religion 
> or oppose it. 
> 
> You could look at the work of William Segal who was both a teacher with 
> Gurdjieff Foundation as well as Soto Zen Buddhist. 
> 
> But back to our regular programming 
> 
> Shikan Taza . . .
> 
> /\
> 
> Kirk



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