zendervish... please clarify this?...what are you trying to ask?... is there anything i do not know?... i do not know that i know ..merle
Merle Is there anything you don't know? A question? How do you reach the state of function and capacity? /\ zendervish --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > > Â > Â yes the cults..dangerous..those who know..do not cult......ivate....merle > Â > Dear Joe > > That's him, Salik . . . a real madman. We attended a Zikr gathering with the > Naqshbandi and aferwards there was this middle easter restauant downstairs, > Saturday night, and they had belly dancers and corny music going . . . so > when we come downstairs with all the Sufis, who are pretty conservation, > Salik hears the music and goes into Sama and wheels into the middle of the > restaurant with Jerrahi hat on and robes . . . wildly dancing and carrying on. > > Also, Salik and I assisted some people getting out of a cult, but he was the > real hero . . . this cult got real involved in the sexy business and an inner > esoteric school of Mary Magdalene . . . you can figure the rest. A friend of > mind stayed there for a while in his old age. > > /\ > > zendervish > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > Salik, > > > > Salik very kindly wrote: > > "A real madman of devotion, love and gratitude." > > > > I love it! Sounds like a fine fellow. > > > > I think I might know this (that!) Salik!, Salik! I think he was/is? a > > close associate of Shahabuddhin Lesh. A tallish skinny fellow, eyes a > > little sunken, yellowish short hair (in 1973-74-75) and who smoked > > cigarettes, even inside the Cathedral!, where it was Verboten, on our Sufi > > Dancing nights. He said he smoked them "in order to keep from becoming too > > pure". Maybe it's the same principle as practiced in the construction of > > Islamic Mosque tile-mosaics, in which an obvious "mistake" is always > > committed intentionally so as not to offend Allah, and left in full view. > > > > It was Salik who often did the Call to Prayer once we were all assembled > > there on Wednesday evenings after we had moved HUNDREDS of wood chairs out > > of the 100-foot space under the dome arching over the cathedral's > > "Crossing", where the Transcept intersects the Nave-Apse axis of the > > building. That Crossing is the largest of ANY Cathedral's in the world: > > 100 x 100 ft. A record. And Saint John's is also the largest Cathedral in > > the world (Saint Peter's in Rome is a larger building, but it is *not* a > > Cathedral: it is a "Basilica"). > > > > Salik would put his open hands behind the ears and solemnly project the > > Call up into the rafters, bringing in some *really* sharp and arresting > > tones: Wow! It was always a privilege to hear him and see him do this, > > belting out the sounds up into the stone "rafters" there inside the > > Christian cathedral. You know the acoustics in that place: just amazing! > > Very lively. And Salik never let the echo come back and step-on a new > > syllable: he had the timing DOWN. Definitely a musician. He played the > > drum during our dancing, and was a natural at it. An amazing guy. > > > > I'm so glad you're at ZCLA. I know you'll have great practice there. I > > wish you very, very strong practice. Many great Sesshin, and powerful > > ones. May they open up for everybody there the full flower of our original > > face. > > > > Many blessings, and as my Ch'an Shih-fu used to say, "Don't be in a hurry!" > > And, "just fall right in line with how they practice, there". > > > > --Joe > > > > PS I'm sorry to sound so ignorant of Gurdjief's ways, earlier, but I am! > > But I really don't need to express uninformed opinions as I did. Toward > > the One! That's for sure, --J. > > > > > "salik888" wrote: > > > > > > Dear Joe > > > > > > I spent some time with a friend and fellow Shaykh in the Halvati Jerrahi > > > Tariqa, Shaykh Salik Schwartz. A real madman of devotion, love and > > > gratitude. He knew Lex Hixon well, was with Shaykh Muzzafer Effendi for > > > years. > > > > > > I just missed meeting Sensei Bernie by a couple of weeks at the Zen > > > Center of Los Angeles, of which I have just joined. I have been at the > > > Gurdjieff Foundation studying for about 5 years. Sensei Bernie was here > > > and apparently there was quite a bit of talk about the new book, The > > > Dude and the Zen Master. > > > > > > I am back to sit with a Sangah, although I have been sitting and working > > > with the Gurdjieff Foundation, studying the ideas and text of Gurdjieff's > > > All and Everything. > > > > > > But, always "sitting." Even during my sitting with Gurdjieff Foundation I > > > sit zazen. (sitting is different in Gurdjieff Tradition, more Taoist) > > > > > >
