Joe that is one Hesse book I did not read .... only Steppenwolf, Demian, and Siddhartha . . . maybe something else.
Thank you for your kind words . . . I am enjoying the sharing that goes on here . . . particular those of you who are putting this into the framework of "stong practice ..." Shikan Taza /\ zendervish --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Dear Kirk, > > Salik, thank you! That's enough for me to chew on for a week or more, until > before the Ides of March. Thank you again! > > A favorite strange and dreamlike book for me is Hesse's THE GLASS BEAD GAME > (or titled MAGISTER LUDI). Do you suppose that's an example of Legomonism, > too? > > I've heard of William Segal. Will look at him! > > You're full of gifts; tnx. Good sketching. > > --Joe > > > "salik888" <novelidea8@> wrote: > > > > Dear Joe > > > > We don't want to get too far afield, but I will sketch in a few things. > > > > Ouspensky was a student of Gurdjieff. > > > > Meetings with Remarkable Men was based upon Gurdjieff's second book of All > > and Everything > > > > 1) Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson > > 2) Meetings With Remarkable Men > > 3) Life Is Only Real When I Am > > > > Gurdjieff's work deals with oral teachings and the phenomena of Legomonism. > > Anyone can google an introduction to what a Legomonism is -- examples: > > Chess, Sphinx, Pyramids, Dante's Inferno, Epic of Gilgamesh, etc ... > > > > Gurdjieff's work has been compared to Tibetan Buddhism, Taoism, Esoteric > > Christianity, Yoga, Hermeticism, Gnosticism. Most likely it comes from > > Central Asia, a small elect of either mythological deity/tradition, or an > > Esoteric School. Bennett and others have said its origins is Sarmouni (The > > Bees), the closes we have to this is the Sufi Kwaja tradition of Shah > > Bauhadin . . . probably somewhere in Afghanistan. There are references to > > The Bees in various esoteric forms of Buddhism, Taoism, and Sufism. One > > mention of it is in Entry Into The Realm Of Reality, The Guide, by Li > > Tonxuan, translate by Thomas Cleary. Thomas Cleary has a good introduction > > to this Wester and Northern aspect of Buddhism and Taoism. There are plenty > > of references to this in Gurdjieff's writings. Gurdjieff never taught or > > operated on a literal teaching style, he always used other means to get the > > student to question and discover for himself, so same thing with his > > tradition and writings. Question and verify everything with experience. > > > > In my estimation Gurdjieff was not a syncretist. He also did not bring > > another religion. It is a school, which the study of being is the subject. > > You have teachers help you with this, with Group work. Although people come > > and go, and all religious traditions are welcome. They don't teach religion > > or oppose it. > > > > You could look at the work of William Segal who was both a teacher with > > Gurdjieff Foundation as well as Soto Zen Buddhist. > > > > But back to our regular programming > > > > Shikan Taza . . . > > > > /\ > > > > Kirk > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
