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zendervish --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > Â i read the glass bead game in salad days, the days of wine and roses...i > love hesse..i have read ALL Â his work!..brilliant!,,merle > > > Â > Joe > > that is one Hesse book I did not read .... only Steppenwolf, Demian, and > Siddhartha . . . maybe something else. > > Thank you for your kind words . . . > > I am enjoying the sharing that goes on here . . . particular those of you who > are putting this into the framework of > > "stong practice ..." > > Shikan Taza > > /\ > > zendervish > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > Dear Kirk, > > > > Salik, thank you! That's enough for me to chew on for a week or more, > > until before the Ides of March. Thank you again! > > > > A favorite strange and dreamlike book for me is Hesse's THE GLASS BEAD GAME > > (or titled MAGISTER LUDI). Do you suppose that's an example of Legomonism, > > too? > > > > I've heard of William Segal. Will look at him! > > > > You're full of gifts; tnx. Good sketching. > > > > --Joe > > > > > "salik888" wrote: > > > > > > Dear Joe > > > > > > We don't want to get too far afield, but I will sketch in a few things. > > > > > > Ouspensky was a student of Gurdjieff. > > > > > > Meetings with Remarkable Men was based upon Gurdjieff's second book of > > > All and Everything > > > > > > 1) Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson > > > 2) Meetings With Remarkable Men > > > 3) Life Is Only Real When I Am > > > > > > Gurdjieff's work deals with oral teachings and the phenomena of > > > Legomonism. Anyone can google an introduction to what a Legomonism is -- > > > examples: Chess, Sphinx, Pyramids, Dante's Inferno, Epic of Gilgamesh, > > > etc ... > > > > > > Gurdjieff's work has been compared to Tibetan Buddhism, Taoism, Esoteric > > > Christianity, Yoga, Hermeticism, Gnosticism. Most likely it comes from > > > Central Asia, a small elect of either mythological deity/tradition, or an > > > Esoteric School. Bennett and others have said its origins is Sarmouni > > > (The Bees), the closes we have to this is the Sufi Kwaja tradition of > > > Shah Bauhadin . . . probably somewhere in Afghanistan. There are > > > references to The Bees in various esoteric forms of Buddhism, Taoism, and > > > Sufism. One mention of it is in Entry Into The Realm Of Reality, The > > > Guide, by Li Tonxuan, translate by Thomas Cleary. Thomas Cleary has a > > > good introduction to this Wester and Northern aspect of Buddhism and > > > Taoism. There are plenty of references to this in Gurdjieff's writings. > > > Gurdjieff never taught or operated on a literal teaching style, he always > > > used other means to get the student to question and discover for himself, > > > so same thing with his tradition and > writings. Question and verify everything with experience. > > > > > > In my estimation Gurdjieff was not a syncretist. He also did not bring > > > another religion. It is a school, which the study of being is the > > > subject. You have teachers help you with this, with Group work. Although > > > people come and go, and all religious traditions are welcome. They don't > > > teach religion or oppose it. > > > > > > You could look at the work of William Segal who was both a teacher with > > > Gurdjieff Foundation as well as Soto Zen Buddhist. > > > > > > But back to our regular programming > > > > > > Shikan Taza . . . > > > > > > /\ > > > > > > Kirk > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
