Merle et al, I also went through a period in my 20's where I read every Hesse book I could find.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > Â well who has read his books for starters..?...it was when i was in my early > 20's..it has become part of who i am... merle > > > Â > Tell us something about Hesse . . . > > /\ > > zendervish > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > ÃÂ i read the glass bead game in salad days, the days of wine and > > roses...i love hesse..i have read ALL ÃÂ his work!..brilliant!,,merle > > > > > > ÃÂ > > Joe > > > > that is one Hesse book I did not read .... only Steppenwolf, Demian, and > > Siddhartha . . . maybe something else. > > > > Thank you for your kind words . . . > > > > I am enjoying the sharing that goes on here . . . particular those of you > > who are putting this into the framework of > > > > "stong practice ..." > > > > Shikan Taza > > > > /\ > > > > zendervish > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kirk, > > > > > > Salik, thank you! That's enough for me to chew on for a week or more, > > > until before the Ides of March. Thank you again! > > > > > > A favorite strange and dreamlike book for me is Hesse's THE GLASS BEAD > > > GAME (or titled MAGISTER LUDI). Do you suppose that's an example of > > > Legomonism, too? > > > > > > I've heard of William Segal. Will look at him! > > > > > > You're full of gifts; tnx. Good sketching. > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > "salik888" wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Joe > > > > > > > > We don't want to get too far afield, but I will sketch in a few things. > > > > > > > > Ouspensky was a student of Gurdjieff. > > > > > > > > Meetings with Remarkable Men was based upon Gurdjieff's second book of > > > > All and Everything > > > > > > > > 1) Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson > > > > 2) Meetings With Remarkable Men > > > > 3) Life Is Only Real When I Am > > > > > > > > Gurdjieff's work deals with oral teachings and the phenomena of > > > > Legomonism. Anyone can google an introduction to what a Legomonism is > > > > -- examples: Chess, Sphinx, Pyramids, Dante's Inferno, Epic of > > > > Gilgamesh, etc ... > > > > > > > > Gurdjieff's work has been compared to Tibetan Buddhism, Taoism, > > > > Esoteric Christianity, Yoga, Hermeticism, Gnosticism. Most likely it > > > > comes from Central Asia, a small elect of either mythological > > > > deity/tradition, or an Esoteric School. Bennett and others have said > > > > its origins is Sarmouni (The Bees), the closes we have to this is the > > > > Sufi Kwaja tradition of Shah Bauhadin . . . probably somewhere in > > > > Afghanistan. There are references to The Bees in various esoteric forms > > > > of Buddhism, Taoism, and Sufism. One mention of it is in Entry Into The > > > > Realm Of Reality, The Guide, by Li Tonxuan, translate by Thomas Cleary. > > > > Thomas Cleary has a good introduction to this Wester and Northern > > > > aspect of Buddhism and Taoism. There are plenty of references to this > > > > in Gurdjieff's writings. Gurdjieff never taught or operated on a > > > > literal teaching style, he always used other means to get the student > > > > to question and discover for himself, so same thing with his tradition > > > > and > > writings. Question and verify everything with experience. > > > > > > > > In my estimation Gurdjieff was not a syncretist. He also did not bring > > > > another religion. It is a school, which the study of being is the > > > > subject. You have teachers help you with this, with Group work. > > > > Although people come and go, and all religious traditions are welcome. > > > > They don't teach religion or oppose it. > > > > > > > > You could look at the work of William Segal who was both a teacher with > > > > Gurdjieff Foundation as well as Soto Zen Buddhist. > > > > > > > > But back to our regular programming > > > > > > > > Shikan Taza . . . > > > > > > > > /\ > > > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
