Joe,

A totally invalid conclusion..... He could well have awakened having a 
different history. The point is he awakened ON HIS OWN, without a teacher...

And so can anyone else who merely looks and realizes the true nature of 
reality....

Edgar





On Mar 27, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Joe wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> He couldn't have awakened without them, then.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> > 
> > Your comments are very misleading. Shakyamuni went from teacher to teacher 
> > but rejected them all and all their teachings because none of them knew the 
> > true path. The true path was what he found ONLY AFTER rejecting the current 
> > teachings of the day...
> > 
> > None of Buddha's 'teachers' was a Zen teacher and none of his teachers 
> > actually taught him the way. At best they taught him what to reject...
> 
> 

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