Chris,
I was never one for the water-drop model, either. But I thought at first that
you said you heard it spoken of like that at the Soto place.
Are you sure you're not confusing it with "Chinese" water-torture?
Can't speak for Aitken, though I knew him and liked him.
--Joe
> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't describe it thusly. Even Aitken never really had a kensho
> experience.
>
> Thanks,
> --Chris
> 301-270-6524
> On Mar 24, 2013 10:21 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> > Chris,
> >
> > Soto, Rinzai, it doesn't matter. Zen is the Sudden School, compared with
> > the Teaching School, any day.
> >
> > Suddenly you're as wet as you're going to get; the last drop is SUDDEN.
> >
> > Not quite the same as Maxwell House, though: "Good to the last Drop".
> >
> > It's "Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone completely beyond. Bodhi; Svahah!"
> >
> > I'd say a falling away, a stopping; rather than a going away.
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