Chris,
Soto, Rinzai, it doesn't matter. Zen is the Sudden School, compared with the
Teaching School, any day.
Suddenly you're as wet as you're going to get; the last drop is SUDDEN.
Not quite the same as Maxwell House, though: "Good to the last Drop".
It's "Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone completely beyond. Bodhi; Svahah!"
I'd say a falling away, a stopping; rather than a going away.
--Joe
> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't describe my Soto Zen training as Sudden school, they talked
> about the rain soaking one gradually, but I will share that the flood of
> "Zen thoughts" I had in the first year or or so of sitting was a lot
> sillier than the normal silly street thoughts I noticed when I first sat.
>
> Thanks,
> --Chris
> 301-270-6524
> On Mar 24, 2013 6:55 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Yep, folks may always disagree with the personality of the Zen school, but
> > suffice it to say -- and I hope, to understand -- that the Zen school is
> > not the Teaching School.
> >
> > The "Don't-know Mind" is the one that I think people in Zen practice most
> > helpfully bring into practice situations. If we go in armed with images,
> > models, conceptions -- someone ELSE'S wisdom -- we often use those arms
> > against ourselves, mitigating against an awakening opportunity.
> >
> > I've sensed it's a very delicate business, sometimes. Better --in OUR way
> > -- to arrive empty handed, empty fisted. Nothing to grasp, nothing to
> > carry you to the other shore.
> >
> > This is the way that compassionate geniuses have set up our practice. I
> > won't disagree with their hearts.
> >
> > Other geniuses have set up other schools' practices. Bless their hearts,
> > too.
> >
> > We get to choose which is our school. And then to choose whether to be
> > true to it.
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