mike..will do... 
what do you mean what was

..there is wisdom in those old and worn out cups...
AND
there are stories to be told of days of yesteryear... 
merle

  
Merle,

More 'honest' is the cup that is cracked and dented from age. In Japanese the 
talk about wabi - sabi. They're words that don't really have a direct 
translation in English, but give a sense of sad beauty in the old and worn 
(what was). Worth looking up!

Mike


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________________________________
 From:  Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
To:  [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
Subject:  Re: [Zen] the strawberry myth 
Sent:  Sat, May 18, 2013 5:53:37 AM 


  


 mike..

i get your drift about the cup!..
the japanese master potter made the cup perfect than put a dint in it...
nothing is what it appears to be and nothing is perfect..
nothing is something and something is nothing...
merle

  
Merle,

I copied this for you. It's regarding things having "essence":

What is emptiness then? To understand the philosophical meaning of this term, 
let's look at a simple solid object, such as a cup. How is a cup empty? We 
usually say that a cup is empty if it does not contain any liquid or solid. 
This is the ordinary meaning of emptiness. But, is the cup really empty? A cup 
empty of liquids or solids is still full of air. To be precise, we must 
therefore state what the cup is empty of. Can a cup be empty of all substance? 
A cup in a vacuum does not contain any air, but it still contains space, light, 
radiation, as well as its own substance. Hence, from a physical point of view, 
the cup is always full of something. Yet, from the Buddhist point of view, the 
cup is always empty. The Buddhist understanding of emptiness is different from 
the
 physical meaning.
 The cup
 being empty means that it is devoid of inherent existence.

What is meant with non-inherent existence? Is this to say that the cup does not 
ultimately exist? - Not quite. - The cup exists, but like everything in this 
world, its existence depends on other phenomena. There is nothing in a cup that 
is inherent to that specific cup or to cups in general. Properties such as 
being hollow, spherical, cylindrical, or leak-proof are not intrinsic to cups. 
Other objects which are not cups have similar properties, as for example vases 
and glasses. The cup's properties and components are neither cups themselves 
nor do they imply cupness on their own. The material is not the cup. The shape 
is not the cup. The function is not the cup. Only all these aspects together 
make up the cup. Hence, we can say that for an object to be a cup we require a 
collection of specific conditions to exist. It depends on the combination of 
function, use, shape, base material,
 and
 the cup's other aspects. Only if all these conditions exist simultaneously 
does the mind impute cupness to the object. If one condition ceases to exist, 
for instance, if the cup's shape is altered by breaking it, the cup forfeits 
some or all of its cupness, because the object's function, its shape, as well 
as the imputation of cupness through perception is disrupted. The cup's 
existence thus depends on external circumstances. Its physical essence remains 
elusive.

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________________________________
 From:  Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
To:  [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
Subject:  [Zen] the strawberry myth 
Sent:  Sat, May 18, 2013 3:46:59 AM 


  
 group....
the thing about a strawberry ..
 a quality strawberry..it is suppose to be sweet...
that is what we expect from a strawberry...
the very essence of it is it's sweetness.. 
a sour one well apart from the fact it puts us off eating it and it is a 
product that will not sell well in the markets... 
get real..
would you want to eat sour strawberries for desert?..
for christ sake..
sour strawberries will put you off eating them for life... 

it's not all about judgement

 it's about accepting the reality that the sour strawberry does not contain the 
essence of what it is to be a strawberry..

that's not rocket science..
and requires no more that a nod and a shake of the head  then spit it out..
end of story..
let's not read into this strawberry caper..
create a myth and make it something to be set in stone for ever more ... 

amen..
merle
 
Merle
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