yes edgar..why indeed?..merle


  
Edgar,

Thank you for sharing that personal experience. It reminds me of this haiku by 
Buson :

The thwack of an ax 
in the heart of a thicket 
and woodpecker's tat-tats!

Of course, it could be written about any country where there are woodpeckers, 
but if you've been to Japan, then you can understand the feeling of a Japanese 
summer in the country that it evokes.

Just one point tho. Your awakening experience was a run of the mill, garden 
variety Zen awakening (I don't mean that in a trivial way). It occurred 
spontaneously without employing reason or logic (you didn't even mention 
"ontological energy" ; )). So why do you now argue that such break-thru's can 
only happen after using rationality and intellectual reasoning?

Mike


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 From:  Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
To:  <[email protected]>; 
Subject:  Re: [Zen] Re: Experience the light 
Sent:  Sat, Jun 15, 2013 7:21:34 PM 


  
All,

Actually this Dharma Drum reference reminds me of one of my realization 
experiences ....

One night during the period I was walking through Japan I spent the night 
sleeping in a field of weeds outside a Zen temple. Very early in the morning 
way before sunrise a large drum began a continuous slow ba Boom, ba Boom, ba 
Boom... This went on for some time but at some point I suddenly realized this 
was the heartbeat of the sleeping Buddha, the Buddha sleeping in everything 
around me. At that point I had a sudden wonderful realization and Buddha awoke!

Edgar

On Jun 15, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> What's Dharma Drum?
> 
> Could this be a depiction of it? I was wondering who this guy was....
> 
> 
> <gandhara-11463.jpg>
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Joe wrote:
> 
>> Donald,
>> 
>> All those things you say are correct, and can be confirmed by others besides 
>> me, too.
>> 
>> They are not a good basis nor motivation for the Bodhisattva path, however.
>> 
>> A Bodhisattva, to be a Bodhisattva, knows that he/she is practicing in order 
>> to open the heart of Compassion.
>> 
>> To practice for light, etc., is the practice of Outer Paths.  It is not 
>> really Chan.
>> 
>> I think you can find true Chan on Taiwan!: you are in a good place for it.  
>> How about Dharma Drum.
>> 
>> --Joe
>> 
>>> <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> If you believe the light inside all of us is the key to enlightenment, then 
>>> please read on...
>>> 
>>> All I am asking you to TRY for the last eight years is the following:
>>> 
>>> 1. Focus on the path of your belly breathing.
>>> 2. Focus on your chakras.
>>> 3. Focus and guide your chi along your chi channels.
>>> 4. Do this everyday for one hour minimum.
>>> 
>>> One day, you will find all of your chakra merged into one and all three 
>>> chi channels merged into one.  You become one ball of chi. Due to all 
>>> the focusing, your mind is empty, you see light emitting from all of 
>>> your chakras.  You enter into a realm of light.
>>> 
>>> Now you'll possess the power to heal as well as the wisdom for each 
>>> encounter without the need to think.
>>> 
>>> That's all I am suggesting for you to try to experience.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your attention,
>>> JM
>> 
> 

 
 

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