Mike, Good question, but as with most if not all realizations it DID EMPLY REASON in several respects. The understanding that the drum was the heartbeat of Buddha was an understanding of reason. The understanding that Buddha nature exists sleeping in all things is an understanding of reason. That reason enabled the path to the actual realization of the sleeping Buddha awakening....
Reason and understanding are always essential to take one on the path to the point that realization occurs... Edgar On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:50 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Edgar, > > Thank you for sharing that personal experience. It reminds me of this haiku > by Buson : > > The thwack of an ax > in the heart of a thicket > and woodpecker's tat-tats! > > Of course, it could be written about any country where there are woodpeckers, > but if you've been to Japan, then you can understand the feeling of a > Japanese summer in the country that it evokes. > > Just one point tho. Your awakening experience was a run of the mill, garden > variety Zen awakening (I don't mean that in a trivial way). It occurred > spontaneously without employing reason or logic (you didn't even mention > "ontological energy" ; )). So why do you now argue that such break-thru's can > only happen after using rationality and intellectual reasoning? > > Mike > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; > To: <[email protected]>; > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Experience the light > Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 7:21:34 PM > > > All, > > Actually this Dharma Drum reference reminds me of one of my realization > experiences .... > > One night during the period I was walking through Japan I spent the night > sleeping in a field of weeds outside a Zen temple. Very early in the morning > way before sunrise a large drum began a continuous slow ba Boom, ba Boom, ba > Boom... This went on for some time but at some point I suddenly realized this > was the heartbeat of the sleeping Buddha, the Buddha sleeping in everything > around me. At that point I had a sudden wonderful realization and Buddha > awoke! > > Edgar > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Edgar Owen wrote: > > > Joe, > > > > What's Dharma Drum? > > > > Could this be a depiction of it? I was wondering who this guy was.... > > > > > > <gandhara-11463.jpg> > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Joe wrote: > > > >> Donald, > >> > >> All those things you say are correct, and can be confirmed by others > >> besides me, too. > >> > >> They are not a good basis nor motivation for the Bodhisattva path, however. > >> > >> A Bodhisattva, to be a Bodhisattva, knows that he/she is practicing in > >> order to open the heart of Compassion. > >> > >> To practice for light, etc., is the practice of Outer Paths. It is not > >> really Chan. > >> > >> I think you can find true Chan on Taiwan!: you are in a good place for it. > >> How about Dharma Drum. > >> > >> --Joe > >> > >>> <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear All, > >>> > >>> If you believe the light inside all of us is the key to enlightenment, > >>> then please read on... > >>> > >>> All I am asking you to TRY for the last eight years is the following: > >>> > >>> 1. Focus on the path of your belly breathing. > >>> 2. Focus on your chakras. > >>> 3. Focus and guide your chi along your chi channels. > >>> 4. Do this everyday for one hour minimum. > >>> > >>> One day, you will find all of your chakra merged into one and all three > >>> chi channels merged into one. You become one ball of chi. Due to all > >>> the focusing, your mind is empty, you see light emitting from all of > >>> your chakras. You enter into a realm of light. > >>> > >>> Now you'll possess the power to heal as well as the wisdom for each > >>> encounter without the need to think. > >>> > >>> That's all I am suggesting for you to try to experience. > >>> > >>> Thank you for your attention, > >>> JM > >> > > > > >
