Bill,

In your mind maybe but I just define them as the same thing....

Edgar



On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar, Joe and Merle,
> 
> Actually I don't think God and Buddha Nature have much in common at all. One 
> is an illusion and the other is an experience.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > Edgar,
> > 
> > Almost!
> > 
> > Maybe you mean substitute Buddha Nature for God.
> > 
> > You can still go wrong if a Zen teacher does not confirm that your 
> > awakening is of the Zen kind, and corrects or extends your course.
> > 
> > A practitioner could otherwise sail to and stop at the wrong place 
> > entirely, and be forever (self-) misled. It happens!
> > 
> > Some end up at desert islands. These destinations are called "Outer Paths". 
> > Some of them are religions, and involve gods. Buddhadharma does not involve 
> > gods. And Zen Buddhism does not.
> > 
> > But, you and others might say:
> > 
> > "Ah: but you drink the water and know for yourself whether it is warm or 
> > cold!"
> > 
> > But that TOO was a Zen teacher who taught that ...and to just ONE student. 
> > Too bad it's quoted out of context so much and folks imaginatively believe 
> > it applies to them, as strangers who never met the teacher!
> > 
> > "Ours is a special transmission of Mind outside the scriptures, not 
> > dependent on words and letters":
> > 
> > ...it was another Zen teacher said this!
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just substitute God for Buddha Nature and you won't go wrong..
> >
> 
> 

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