Positive in the sense of actual as opposed to illusory.... By defining God as a delusion (the way the religions do) you clutter your mind with one more very BIG delusion.
If you simply define God as the universe whose nature is Buddha Nature you clear and clean your mind.. That's why. Edgar On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > Because God is a delusion and not a reality. > > I could go with the 'religious' modifier of delusion, but WTF is a 'positive' > reality? I mean reality is reality. There's no positive or negative about it. > It's just reality. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > Why not define God as a positive reality rather than a religious delusion? > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > Yes, I see that you define them as the same thing. That's fine. I don't > > > however. I assume that's fine too... > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > In your mind maybe but I just define them as the same thing.... > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > > > Edgar, Joe and Merle, > > > > > > > > > > Actually I don't think God and Buddha Nature have much in common at > > > > > all. One is an illusion and the other is an experience. > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost! > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you mean substitute Buddha Nature for God. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can still go wrong if a Zen teacher does not confirm that your > > > > > > awakening is of the Zen kind, and corrects or extends your course. > > > > > > > > > > > > A practitioner could otherwise sail to and stop at the wrong place > > > > > > entirely, and be forever (self-) misled. It happens! > > > > > > > > > > > > Some end up at desert islands. These destinations are called "Outer > > > > > > Paths". Some of them are religions, and involve gods. Buddhadharma > > > > > > does not involve gods. And Zen Buddhism does not. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, you and others might say: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ah: but you drink the water and know for yourself whether it is > > > > > > warm or cold!" > > > > > > > > > > > > But that TOO was a Zen teacher who taught that ...and to just ONE > > > > > > student. Too bad it's quoted out of context so much and folks > > > > > > imaginatively believe it applies to them, as strangers who never > > > > > > met the teacher! > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ours is a special transmission of Mind outside the scriptures, not > > > > > > dependent on words and letters": > > > > > > > > > > > > ...it was another Zen teacher said this! > > > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just substitute God for Buddha Nature and you won't go wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
