Bill,

Why not define God as a positive reality rather than a religious delusion?

Edgar



On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> Yes, I see that you define them as the same thing. That's fine. I don't 
> however. I assume that's fine too...
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > 
> > In your mind maybe but I just define them as the same thing....
> > 
> > Edgar
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > 
> > > Edgar, Joe and Merle,
> > > 
> > > Actually I don't think God and Buddha Nature have much in common at all. 
> > > One is an illusion and the other is an experience.
> > > 
> > > ...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Edgar,
> > > > 
> > > > Almost!
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe you mean substitute Buddha Nature for God.
> > > > 
> > > > You can still go wrong if a Zen teacher does not confirm that your 
> > > > awakening is of the Zen kind, and corrects or extends your course.
> > > > 
> > > > A practitioner could otherwise sail to and stop at the wrong place 
> > > > entirely, and be forever (self-) misled. It happens!
> > > > 
> > > > Some end up at desert islands. These destinations are called "Outer 
> > > > Paths". Some of them are religions, and involve gods. Buddhadharma does 
> > > > not involve gods. And Zen Buddhism does not.
> > > > 
> > > > But, you and others might say:
> > > > 
> > > > "Ah: but you drink the water and know for yourself whether it is warm 
> > > > or cold!"
> > > > 
> > > > But that TOO was a Zen teacher who taught that ...and to just ONE 
> > > > student. Too bad it's quoted out of context so much and folks 
> > > > imaginatively believe it applies to them, as strangers who never met 
> > > > the teacher!
> > > > 
> > > > "Ours is a special transmission of Mind outside the scriptures, not 
> > > > dependent on words and letters":
> > > > 
> > > > ...it was another Zen teacher said this!
> > > > 
> > > > --Joe
> > > > 
> > > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just substitute God for Buddha Nature and you won't go wrong..
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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