Edgar, Because God is a delusion and not a reality.
I could go with the 'religious' modifier of delusion, but WTF is a 'positive' reality? I mean reality is reality. There's no positive or negative about it. It's just reality. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > Why not define God as a positive reality rather than a religious delusion? > > Edgar > > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > Edgar, > > > > Yes, I see that you define them as the same thing. That's fine. I don't > > however. I assume that's fine too... > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > In your mind maybe but I just define them as the same thing.... > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > Edgar, Joe and Merle, > > > > > > > > Actually I don't think God and Buddha Nature have much in common at > > > > all. One is an illusion and the other is an experience. > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > Almost! > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you mean substitute Buddha Nature for God. > > > > > > > > > > You can still go wrong if a Zen teacher does not confirm that your > > > > > awakening is of the Zen kind, and corrects or extends your course. > > > > > > > > > > A practitioner could otherwise sail to and stop at the wrong place > > > > > entirely, and be forever (self-) misled. It happens! > > > > > > > > > > Some end up at desert islands. These destinations are called "Outer > > > > > Paths". Some of them are religions, and involve gods. Buddhadharma > > > > > does not involve gods. And Zen Buddhism does not. > > > > > > > > > > But, you and others might say: > > > > > > > > > > "Ah: but you drink the water and know for yourself whether it is warm > > > > > or cold!" > > > > > > > > > > But that TOO was a Zen teacher who taught that ...and to just ONE > > > > > student. Too bad it's quoted out of context so much and folks > > > > > imaginatively believe it applies to them, as strangers who never met > > > > > the teacher! > > > > > > > > > > "Ours is a special transmission of Mind outside the scriptures, not > > > > > dependent on words and letters": > > > > > > > > > > ...it was another Zen teacher said this! > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just substitute God for Buddha Nature and you won't go wrong.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
