I think a more exact parallel is "meeting God" with "experiencing Buddha
nature."

As a non-Christian mystic I wonder how you derived your theory of seeing
God being fundamentally distinct from no-mind. Surely you are not speaking
from experience?

Credit to Brad Warner for this.

Thanks,
--Chris
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 On Jun 16, 2013 8:43 AM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bill!, Edgar,
>
> Nobody's act of "defining" changes the fact that one is an experience and
> one is an illusion.
>
> Christian Contemplative Mystics experience God, and they suppose that the
> "Buddha Nature" they've heard about is some poor unsaved person's illusion;
>
> Zen Buddhists experience Buddha Nature and suppose that "God" must be
> somebody elses' illusion who has not yet heard of Buddhadharma.
>
> But a distinction we can draw is that Buddha Nature is experienced only
> when there is No-Mind.  God is an experience of people who stop at One-Mind
> in their practice.
>
> This is why a Zen teacher is absolutely necessary to guide a practitioner
> to *keep going* in intensive practice, and not to stop at One-Mind.  One
> cannot do this oneself.  If you stop at One-Mind (a quite wonderful state,
> itself), you do not experience No-Mind, and you do not therefore know Zen,
> and Zen-Mind, which is No-Mind.
>
> --Joe
>
> > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> >
> > Edgar,
> >
> > Yes, I see that you define them as the same thing.  That's fine.  I
> don't however.  I assume that's fine too...
> >
> > ...Bill!
>
>
>
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