Merle, Chris and Joe... Chris' post was well thought out. His posts usually are, even the ones I disagree with. In this one I especially liked his observation that especially on this site "Everyone that writes here has I think missed the mark from time to time."
I do think however a good deal of Chris' discomfort with Joe's posts are more of style than substance. Joe uses humor, which sometimes leads to quips and sarcasm. Some people take those more personally and harshly than others. Chris' style is pretty much straight-up and more consistently serious. Merle's style seems to be completely spontaneous and somewhat quirky at times. Edgar? Well, Edgar is just Edgar. Anyway I don't think anybody here is trying to hurt anyone's feelings or purposely trying to offend. There is sometimes jabs here and there (I certainly jab sometimes), but I assume that's just to get someone's attention or emphasis a point. Those are my thoughts on this...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  a comforting well thought out post chris...merle > > >  > I think the inescapable meanness in your words here show very well that there > is no permanent essence attached to persons or to awakening. Sometimes > Merle's words show she gets it, at that time. Sometimes your words show > that. Everyone that writes here has I think missed the mark from time to > time. Thatâs a good lesson-we aren't really separate from one another and > sometimes we join the dance eyes open and sometimes eyes closed, so our > partners make way for us. I respect your long history of practise and > achievement, but with language like "every" and "compared" and "more > advanced" I think you show us that no amount of practise is enough. > You may hold to an essential difference between yourself and Merle and I as > less advanced, but today I do not see that dividing line. > Thanks, > --Chris > 301-270-6524 > > On Jun 17, 2013 6:42 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Chris, > > > >I've seen Merle trivialize it, in every post.  Hi, Cous'!  Luv ya. > > > >Compared to / with her posts, Americans are more advanced in practice than > >you and me. > > > >Trivialize?  I'm an old man, C.  This goes / has gone with the territory. > > But, find yourself in a community of practitioners, and you will find > >critical mass. > > > >Looky-here, C.: there's Zen; and, there's hooey.  I think it's always been > >so.  When it comes to Zen... only a Practitioner, well, "knows".  We > >forgive all trivializations.  How could anyone else know?  We know that > >practice is necessary.  And we try to extend our appreciation of our > >practice to others.  But do not proselytize. > > > >This is why I teach.  To the extent that I do.  Since 1980. > > > >I don't forgive my (your) culture; and, I don't indict it.  It takes "a > >Certain Maturity", to take up our Practice.  You won't find it online.  > >Usually.  Rare exceptions.  Bill!, and me;  Mike; and you.  Maybe some > >lurkers.  And Mr. Zendervish, here, certainly.  Kudos, and hail!, all > >non-fuddlers! > > > >--Joe > > > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > >> > >> http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/ > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA > >> > >> http://zenhabits.net/ > >> > >> I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here.  You've > >> never seen US culture trivialize zen? > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
