For Edgar...

--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> PS: And btw Buddha lived long before Bill was born. So how could he have even 
> existed if Bill's imagination wasn't around to create him since like 
> everything else Bill believes Buddha is a product of his imagination?

Thought isn't limited by time and space.

> 
> Not to mention the universe that Bill created back at the big bang in his 
> imagination! Hmmm, does Bill believe he is God? I think the DSM has a name 
> for that condition....

Now Edgar... these conditions are made up by deluded, very unzen people...

It IS possible that Bill is God...

> 
> Hey, I'm older than Bill. So maybe I didn't really exist before Bill's 
> imagination created me when he was born? Strange I don't notice any change in 
> my existence when Bill goes to sleep..
> 
> Bill's core belief is just all too too ridiculous!
> 
> Is anyone here really dumb enough to believe they are figments of Bill's 
> imagination?

Everyone else might be but I am not. In a very real way you are Edgar, it is 
very zen to think like that.

Beliefs are not Zen, Edgar.  Subjective wisdom is.

> 
> Bill can't distinguish between experience and reality. He MISTAKES his 
> experience for reality and can't understand that his experience is PART of 
> reality (which every school boy knows) instead of reality being part of his 
> experience. 
> 

How do you know experience ISN'T reality..? How do you know, you yourself have 
a firm grasp of reality..? In my book Bill has a much firmer grasp of reality 
than you, Edgar.




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