goodness me suresh...
sounds like you have no fun at all joe is it necessary to be so" Pure "minded? surely zen is freedom attachments are only attachments if they over take over ride and destroy our balance?... merle Dear Joe, Thanks for your offer. You are right. But for me joining a sangha and practice zen is impossible for me due to my lifestyle. I am bonded to this family and I don't want to break it since they are very much innocent and if I do still, then that Karma will not leave me for free, and awakening of zen will be impossible because of this bad karma of mine. To live with family and supporting them is my zen practice. I practice zen moment to moment. Actual Selflessness is impossible, due to my attachment to the family.But I can try to detach from these writings I make in forums. I have already detached from alcohol, smoking and also indulging in eating. Sex no more impress me, so that attachment also gone. My only attachment is to my family and to my own knowledge. This attachment to my knowledge should be discarded, then I hope I will not get into any problems. Because of my attachment to 'my'(this itself wrong claim) knowledge, I claim my righteousness, which many did not like it. I think humbleness will come if I discard the ownership of knowledge gathered by this body. Best regards Suresh --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Suresh, > > The only real humility is (actual) Selflessness. > > Other humility is a discipline, or a charade (a feature of attachment to a > Self). > > Other humility is thus not quite real, and definitely not Natural (not a > feature of actual Nature). > > Selflessness is attained when all else drops away. This occurs in the > awakening of Zen, through absolutely correct Zen practice with Teacher, and > Sangha. If it happens otherwise, it is perhaps one in a Billion times, so > just forget about that. Better to seek a practice situation with others, and > especially with a true Teacher, to help one's chances, and to he help ensure > that one will open to true Wisdom and Compassion, and not to yet another > Attachment of some kind. > > But I always say this. You know this already, to the extent that *I* think > it is true. Some disagree; I think they are sadly mistaken, and deluded on > this point, and others. > > I've seen no one else awaken, though -- by the way -- in 35 years in these > circles, and OUT of these circles. > > Having children with special needs or special characters has nothing to do > with true humility. It depends on one's own actual living character, not > upon the personalities in one's family. > > This is the best I can offer, today. > > Yours!, > > --Joe > > SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Can anyone define what is to be 'Humble'? > > > > Since sometimes back one of my old senior colleague advised me that > > "whether you are right or wrong is not important, be humble, and > > humble since you have special children you need to be much more > > humbled." He used to be like my well-wisher. > > > [snip] >
