Re: [Zen] Finding a mirror...

[Kathleen Knight]

I, too, have enjoyed our conversation.  Watch out for G�del's Theorem, though.  It is much abused, and really doesn't communicate clearly to anyone other than mathematicians, philosophers, and physicists.  An unlikely group if you're looking for "normal" (what the hey is that?) people. Be well, and much as I hate to say this, hear Fudo when he says, "the oak tree in the yard." Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Scholl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: RE: [Zen] Finding a mirror... Kathleen, It seems we agree that mediation is a raft that could bring us closer... and perhaps even further away depending on how it is used.  We also seem to agree that It is not inherently closer, by definition.  For me Godel's theorem has been the most easily communicable raft -- but I am not always communicating with "normal" people.   Thanks for the exchange.       Thus, my question, "Is practice caused or uncaused?" lies helpless and as Al pointed out once, like an orphan... I am forced to cannibilize my own thoughts... perhaps they will eat themselves from out of food and finally die.    Or, if history proves consistent, my thoughts will resort to being farmers and use the dying thoughts as fertilizer to grow ever persistent strains of crop to also be used as future sources of fertilizer...   Rod Scholl Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.