Hi David, I see you're fond of quantum physics, eh? Here is what one of the founding fathers of quantum physics, Neils Bohr, had to say on the topic:
"There is trivial truth, and there is great truth. The opposite of the trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of the great truth is also true." Bohr was one mean motherfucker, right? Alex --- David Isaac Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have read the responses and have learned a few > things. I do agree > that reality is an illusion. Our reality isnt really > what is. We do > not see as the bee sees or hear like the bat or use > our scent glands > like a dog. If we were to see all of everything at > once it would be > very interesting to say the least. > > I do agree with many of your sayings like , > enlightenment is not > based on something we do. and my favorite that > Ultimate Reality is > also temporary. This would lead me to emptiness. But > I am here > although an illusion I still am here. I wake up > every morning. I > understand that in the long run all will pass. But > right now I am > typing. > > But what seperates my fingers from the air around it > at the sub > atomic level. Looking at the subatomic level as > reality instead of > our own relative view we would dissapear. Just an > electron circling > 2 miles outside the nucleus the size of a grape. At > that level what > is a thought? I do not say that I am enlightened as > you are. My > enlightenment comes from an understanding. > > What is, is what is. > My thinking or believing cannot change what is. > What is, just is. > Without me, what is still is. > > This "reality" has something and nothing. > These intertwine infinitly. > Energy/matter and emptiness have infinite > combinations. > One of those combinations results in energy/matter > "seeing" itself. > > We see the universe but we are really just seeing > energy/matter. > We are seeing our trueself. > This consciousness is a result of this energymatter > combination. > You are energy matter. > > You like the rock and tree will change as does all > energymatter. > You will become dust and carbon and nitrogen. > You think this physical reality is an illusion, > it is your consciousness that is an illusion. > > Because you are energymatter you were never born and > will never die. > And you is not you. You are energy matter like all > things. > So there is so no you..there is only energymatter. > We are like a cell on a body that thinks it is > individual and > seperate. > > This is my understanding thus far. It helps to keep > the mind clear > and not get caught up in delusion. The senses are > magnified because > I am aware of things. It is amazing what I see. What > is my trueself? > You are my trueself. > > David Barclay > > > > > ===== No karma was produced during the composition of this letter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
