--- In [email protected], "Rev Genryu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The quote you used was from a well known peddlar of second hand wisdom, by the name of Vernon Howard. He made a good living fleecing the gullible by repackaging palatable quotes and selling the resulting books, tapes and so on. Essentially he would take bits and pieces based on genuine insight and present them in such a way as to entrench spiritual materialism - making the ego itself 'divine', which is the way many new age and other fake teachers work. They tell people what they want to hear, dressing it up with selections from other traditions that they then try to present as being their own and original. If you want a more modern example - think of Deepak Chopra. > > Genryu
wow, you have my attention cause that is exactly where i received the quote from, in fact i receive a daily quote from his website. i dont get the feeling that he was preeching that the ego is "divine" but the opposite that people need to rid themselves of their egos for this is the cause of their miseries. also, thru stories and quotes he shows that we are responsible for our feelings and nothing dictates the way we feel, we do. im sure your right about him preaching whats been preached for thousands of years. i've been told about Deepak as well but im not to familiar with his teachings. i am under the impression that buddhism,zen teachings was on the same line of thought as Vernon Howard's teachings. How did you hear about Vernon Howard? most people i've talked to never heard of him. Mack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mackkup > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Zen] too much > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rev Genryu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The same way I know the taste of water. :o) > > > > Genryu > i disagree, i think that the person is, i could be wrong for i do not > know what it means to be enlightened for i believe one must be > enlightened to know if another is. i am curious as to why you call it > cheap insight? i do know that you must know some truth to tell if > someone else speaks it. Mack > > > > > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > Children International > Would you give Hope to a Child in need? > > � Click Here to meet a Girl > And Give Her Hope > > � Click Here to meet a Boy > And Change His Life > > Learn More > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WwRTUD/SOnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
