--- In [email protected], "mackkup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  i dont 
> get the feeling that he was preeching that the ego is "divine" but 
> the opposite that people need to rid themselves of their egos for 
> this is the cause of their miseries. also, thru stories and quotes he 
> shows that we are responsible for our feelings and nothing dictates 
> the way we feel, we do. 

i wonder about this notion of us taking (total?) responsibility for
our actions/feelings.   it's not that i disagree necessarily - it's
actually what i taught my children when raising them...

but, when reading this i had a sense that for me to take
responsibility for my own feelings in a complete a way, seems to imply
that i'm seperate from all those causes that go into creating the
feelings &
i don't believe we are seperate entities.

for example, i feel that if we want to reduce violence in our society,
then we have to make some effort at creating a humane environment for
people to live in.  at the same time i recognize that no matter how
unfairly i feel i've been treated, it is my responsibility (at least
to try) not to echo that cruelty back into the world.

i guess this comes back to the notion that "our only real possessions
are our actions".  so, i would agree that we are responsible for how
we respond to our feelings (including shaping new feelings).   but
that feelings may arise from an environment which is beyond my control.








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